POST MATCH: 04/05/15 | Hull City 1-3 Arsenal | PL

Re: POST MATCH: 04/05/15 | Hull City 1-3 Arsenal | PL

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Mon May 04, 2015 10:11 pm

Zedie wrote:How do you guys feel about Ramseys performance starting from RW?


Played well.

Doesn't change the fact he isn't a winger, though.

Walcott and Wilshere should always take precedence on the wing.

He is a CM.
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Re: POST MATCH: 04/05/15 | Hull City 1-3 Arsenal | PL

Postby DontPushMe » Mon May 04, 2015 10:12 pm

addict wrote:Arsene hints we won't be buying players. Priority is to keep the squad together and go for top world class if available.

I agree with him.
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Re: POST MATCH: 04/05/15 | Hull City 1-3 Arsenal | PL

Postby ESFSAFC » Mon May 04, 2015 10:13 pm

Zedie wrote:How do you guys feel about Ramseys performance starting from RW?


His starting position might be on the right but he isn't a RW and he comes in too often that we become so narrow at times. He's a very good player so he can perform but I hope it isn't long term.

My only criticism of the game is Giroud, with all our great play he was barely involved again. Despite some good one-two's with Sanchez I think and dragging a defender away for Ramsey's goal I can't think of anything else.
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Re: POST MATCH: 04/05/15 | Hull City 1-3 Arsenal | PL

Postby Danskin » Mon May 04, 2015 10:22 pm

He's done alright in the right-wing. Actually enjoy watching him play there.
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Postby Danskin » Mon May 04, 2015 10:37 pm

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Re: POST MATCH: 04/05/15 | Hull City 1-3 Arsenal | PL

Postby Zedie » Mon May 04, 2015 10:53 pm

Danskin wrote:http://cdn2.streamable.com/video/f2d0abb0f29811e495bb131e6f3a0bf3.webm

What is this haha


Didn't he get an fk for that? Lol
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Postby Danskin » Mon May 04, 2015 11:00 pm

He actually did.
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Re: POST MATCH: 04/05/15 | Hull City 1-3 Arsenal | PL

Postby Walcott14 » Mon May 04, 2015 11:18 pm

Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:I prefer Ramsey as a CM. He was out of this world last year making those late runs in to the box from the midfield.


He can be more involved in attack when playing on wing. He is basically given license to attack like Alexis. Just look at his form in terms of goals and assists as winger compared to his cm games this season.

Last season was amazing, but maybe that convinced Wenger to play Ramsey further up. Normally we play with 1 winger and 1 midfielder on the wings. Cazorla was the main midfielder out wide for us in sometime, but Cazorla's form suffered from playing out wide. Goals dried, but he still managed to assist well.

Maybe now Ramsey will be that midfielder out wide for us this time :biggrin: He is certainly more attacking minded than Cazorla(not with passes). Ramsey has much better off ball movements than Cazorla, meaning he can receive the ball in dangerous areas more often. What I mean is that is that Ramsey makes striker like runs while Cazorla is more of the guy passing to Ramsey.

Ramsey is not my first choice at rw, but if he can operate as second striker on wing like Walcott does, then I am all for it. His attacking play would not cost us defensively and he will be playing with freedom to attack instead of rare late run from midfield. Win Win situation.
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Re: POST MATCH: 04/05/15 | Hull City 1-3 Arsenal | PL

Postby Zedie » Mon May 04, 2015 11:27 pm

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Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:I prefer Ramsey as a CM. He was out of this world last year making those late runs in to the box from the midfield.


He can be more involved in attack when playing on wing. He is basically given license to attack like Alexis. Just look at his form in terms of goals and assists as winger compared to his cm games this season.

Last season was amazing, but maybe that convinced Wenger to play Ramsey further up. Normally we play with 1 winger and 1 midfielder on the wings. Cazorla was the main midfielder out wide for us in sometime, but Cazorla's form suffered from playing out wide. Goals dried, but he still managed to assist well.

Maybe now Ramsey will be that midfielder out wide for us this time :biggrin: He is certainly more attacking minded than Cazorla(not with passes). Ramsey has much better off ball movements than Cazorla, meaning he can receive the ball in dangerous areas more often. What I mean is that is that Ramsey makes striker like runs while Cazorla is more of the guy passing to Ramsey.

Ramsey is not my first choice at rw, but if he can operate as second striker on wing like Walcott does, then I am all for it. His attacking play would not cost us defensively and he will be playing with freedom to attack instead of rare late run from midfield. Win Win situation.


Having had a proper watch of him over the games at RW, its a bit of both.

It was successful today and v liverpool exactly because of the above.

The main problem is v teams where we have to counter quicker and or the opposition works hard at regaining shape.

There's no outlet on the right hand side. Rambo has the engine to run all day, but no pace if the opposition make it so that he must be the outlet.

If the opposition sit, its another CM to be inside with passing ability to make the assist/run through the middle. V chelsea, we were pegged back at times because of their fullback becoming a cb and their winger shifting back to full back.

Chelsea actually played a 5-5-0 at times or a 6-4-0 when under more pressure. Any formation is going to struggle to break that down but no pace on one wing to possibly get behind makes it easier for the opposition to read where the ball will go and adjust to suit.

Rambo isn't the final answer at RW for all occassions, but he can be the key there for some occassions.
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Re: POST MATCH: 04/05/15 | Hull City 1-3 Arsenal | PL

Postby Zedie » Mon May 04, 2015 11:29 pm

Ps, I know there's a lot of love for ozil today, but for me, Cazorla was on another level to anyone in this game.

The guy was devastating with nearly everything he did today, his passing was f***ing sick at all ranges.

Hull got pulled around like puppets at times because of him.

SANTI CAZORLA.
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Re: POST MATCH: 04/05/15 | Hull City 1-3 Arsenal | PL

Postby Callum » Mon May 04, 2015 11:34 pm

Aye, Cazorla was a worthy man of the match.
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Re: POST MATCH: 04/05/15 | Hull City 1-3 Arsenal | PL

Postby ESFSAFC » Tue May 05, 2015 12:21 am

Anyone else worried at how little our players reacted or protested today, we should have had one penalty and the Elmohamady incident.
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Re: POST MATCH: 04/05/15 | Hull City 1-3 Arsenal | PL

Postby yadunoe » Tue May 05, 2015 12:40 am

Great game cazorla's pass for ramsey's goal was superb. great goal and assist by Rambo very important player for us
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Re: POST MATCH: 04/05/15 | Hull City 1-3 Arsenal | PL

Postby Angelito » Tue May 05, 2015 5:34 am

Santi Cazorla on form is a sight to behold. He was brilliant yesterday.
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Postby Fran Solo » Tue May 05, 2015 7:00 am

Definitely need to play Ramsey as RW against opposition playing 3 CBs.
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