by GoonerAlexandre » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:40 pm
by Zedie » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:48 pm
Shawcross trailing foot caught Jeffers ankle and as he turned his ligaments tore
by StokeFan » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:36 pm
GoonerAlexis wrote:That Giroud pic is not comparable to the one of your player. Firstly, I think a shove on the face is fundamentally different. And that's what it was a shove, or at worst, he was holding his neck. Your guy looks like he's strangling someone... which he wasn't, fair enough, but the difference is obvious
Zedie wrote:Why did he need to come off the ground to make that challenge? Because hes not in control of himself.
Shawcross trailing foot caught Jeffers ankle and as he turned his ligaments tore
oh, that makes a full force tackle from behind that tears ligaments from their socket alright then i suppose. As long as no bones were broken. If the bone was broken, i assume that only this would make it a reckless, dangerous tackle . Couldnt find
Another Shawcross special ^^^^^^
Not to mention that wonderful 'no malice' tackle on Adebayor from behind when Ade was OFF THE PITCH as well at the end of that footage from the first clip i posted.
But Ryan isnt that kind of bloke, he doesnt mean it.......
Theres a point where defending him must sound hollow to his fans
oh, that makes a full force tackle from behind that tears ligaments from their socket alright then i suppose. As long as no bones were broken. If the bone was broken, i assume that only this would make it a reckless, dangerous tackle .
Not to mention that wonderful 'no malice' tackle on Adebayor from behind when Ade was OFF THE PITCH as well at the end of that footage from the first clip i posted.
by Yorkyblue » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:52 pm
by StokeFan » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:56 pm
Yorkyblue wrote:I think that Shawcross video is when he was on loan at Antwerp.
by ESFSAFC » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:17 pm
by Cripps » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:28 pm
by StokeFan » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:15 am
Cripps wrote:Didn't shawcross also injure Adebayor?
He has a history of it. Makes me laugh how people with limited knowledge keep defending him. It's there for all to see.
by Va-Va-Voom » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:26 am
StokeFan wrote:Cripps wrote:Didn't shawcross also injure Adebayor?
He has a history of it. Makes me laugh how people with limited knowledge keep defending him. It's there for all to see.
I've already spoken about it. Nothing on the Gallas thing? Didn't think so kiddo
by Cripps » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:32 am
StokeFan wrote:Cripps wrote:Didn't shawcross also injure Adebayor?
He has a history of it. Makes me laugh how people with limited knowledge keep defending him. It's there for all to see.
I've already spoken about it. Nothing on the Gallas thing? Didn't think so kiddo
by StokeFan » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:04 am
VAVAVOOM 14 wrote:StokeFan wrote:Cripps wrote:Didn't shawcross also injure Adebayor?
He has a history of it. Makes me laugh how people with limited knowledge keep defending him. It's there for all to see.
I've already spoken about it. Nothing on the Gallas thing? Didn't think so kiddo
Stop deflecting. The point is Shawcross has a history of reckless tackling, evinced by the fact he's injured three players.
RE that video featuring one of Shawcross' specials, why does it matter if he was 18 years old at the time?
Cripps wrote:StokeFan wrote:Cripps wrote:Didn't shawcross also injure Adebayor?
He has a history of it. Makes me laugh how people with limited knowledge keep defending him. It's there for all to see.
I've already spoken about it. Nothing on the Gallas thing? Didn't think so kiddo
Avoiding the issue is hardly speaking about it. As for Gallas, I don't remember it. There will always be bad challenges, tackles etc. doubt many are intentional. Doubt wenger told Gallas to get stuck in hard on them and let them know he's there.
by GoonerAlexandre » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:36 pm
StokeFan wrote:GoonerAlexis wrote:That Giroud pic is not comparable to the one of your player. Firstly, I think a shove on the face is fundamentally different. And that's what it was a shove, or at worst, he was holding his neck. Your guy looks like he's strangling someone... which he wasn't, fair enough, but the difference is obvious
I appreciate the two aren't comparable, because one is an angelic Arsenal player who can do no wrong in your eyes, and the other is an evil Stoke player from the land of mordor, otherwise known as the North where we're all so backward and stupid, we merely jump from episode to episode of Jeremy Kyle while hiding our pints of scrumpy cider down our big jackets filled with stolen goods and look forward to our late night bar fights. Feel free to fill in any other stereotypes that I assume you associate with anyone north of the Watford Gap...
Charlie Adam didn't strangle Sanchez give me a f***ing break. Sanchez did him hands down (he's done plenty of players this season), and Adam wrapped his arm round him and merely held him from getting any further. It was naughty, it was daft, it could have cost us a goal, but most importantly, it was his only action in a cameo that lasted about 2 minutes, yet you unsurprisingly associate his only action on the pitch that with of an excellent Stoke City performance on the day... no doubt another way to mask the failings of your own team at the Britannia. Is it too much to admit we happened to outplay you that day? That in reality, only thanks to two very favourable refereeing decisions (favourable ref decisions to Arsenal... never) was it not 4-0 to Stoke part way through the second half? I don't expect you to give us credit publicly, I know that's hard, maybe it's just something you can think in the back of your mind... if possible eh?
which he wasn't, fair enough
by StokeFan » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:31 pm
GoonerAlexis wrote:Brilliant.... accusing me of stereotypes I never made
Re: Bolded second paragraph, and I quote my POST which you quotedwhich he wasn't, fair enough
It was an action cameo that lasted 2 minutes but note the difference. Sanchez did nothing to provoke this. The other incident was provoked, was a LOT less violent
Stop with the victim mentality, I have never accused anyone from the North of being uneducated, etc. You don't see us attacking Mags and Mackems, they're up north too, show me one thread on GW or elsewhere where we call Mackems uneducated Louts from Mordor or something
by GoonerAlexandre » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:45 pm
by GoonerAlexandre » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:48 pm
StokeFan wrote:GoonerAlexis wrote:Brilliant.... accusing me of stereotypes I never made
Re: Bolded second paragraph, and I quote my POST which you quotedwhich he wasn't, fair enough
It was an action cameo that lasted 2 minutes but note the difference. Sanchez did nothing to provoke this. The other incident was provoked, was a LOT less violent
Stop with the victim mentality, I have never accused anyone from the North of being uneducated, etc. You don't see us attacking Mags and Mackems, they're up north too, show me one thread on GW or elsewhere where we call Mackems uneducated Louts from Mordor or something
I haven't really accused you of anything, but I'm merely taking a punt on the likelihood that if I scrolled back through your posts, I'm sure I could find something about the orcs from Mordor. You're not the only one, I'm just pointing it out.
You make it sound like Charlie had Sanchez on the floor and throttled him to within an inch of his life. Sanchez ran past him. Charlie grabbed him and bear hugged him. There was nothing violent about it at all. Like I said, it was stupid because it could have cost us a win we thoroughly deserved, but to call it violent is another massive exaggeration (yet I was called out for that Cesc tackle?).
Also, to call Giroud's shove in the face of Shawcross justified because he was provoked is daft as well. I wonder if Shawcross had shoved him back whether you'd be saying "oh well Giroud shoved him, so it was fair game". Doubt it. In reality, neither were violent, that's a word you use, not me, however Giroud's was potentially more aggressive. He after all, struck out, whereas Charlie didn't. Funny how we all see things differently isn't it?