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Omphi93 wrote:

DiamondGooner wrote:

Callum wrote:

arsenaltilltheENDbrother wrote:Still anyone laughing about my brother? Keep on hating haters....Giroud till the end...Motm!

You and I have known for some time brother

Others are starting to see the light

Its not that we're starting to see the light .......... its that he's playing better.

There is a difference.

Nothings changed, been playing at a level for a while, in fact this is the same level of performance many have been championing, the change if there was one occured in the break after his first season before his second during that Asiain pre season tour.

Literally playing his textbook game, last year averaging just under 1 in every 2, being top scorer one of the leading creative players was rated second last in the entire squad in player of the year votes,AFC winning inspite of him etc, remember saying how id never heard of a striker who averaged just under 1 in 2 or one who created so many oppurunities in and around the box come under such fire.

This year just under 1 in 2, same game, same strengths same weaknesses. The only thing thats changed is that Arsenal fans have a close refference point.Its easy to dismiss linkup,arieal ability,strength,angled passes,pulling off the defender,drawing defenders,the balance between a brute ariel threat and intricate ground game etc etc when its always present, take it away , wait somethings not quite right.

Eyes are opened, unfortunatly it took an injury for many to see but quite a few people i know have changed tunes, some noticed when he was out and some came to the realization when he came back.He isnt playing at abnormal level he is playing at his leading striker of AFC, French International, rated by Klopp,rated by Wenger level.

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Still not at last seasons level in and around the box with the extra bit of creative sharpness but i have no doubt he'll get there.

Omphi93 wrote:

DiamondGooner wrote:

Callum wrote:

arsenaltilltheENDbrother wrote:Still anyone laughing about my brother? Keep on hating haters....Giroud till the end...Motm!

You and I have known for some time brother

Others are starting to see the light

Its not that we're starting to see the light .......... its that he's playing better.

There is a difference.

Nothings changed, been playing at a level for a while, in fact this is the same level of performance many have been championing, the change if there was one occured in the break after his first season before his second during that Asiain pre season tour.

Literally playing his textbook game, last year averaging just under 1 in every 2, being top scorer one of the leading creative players was rated second last in the entire squad in player of the year votes,AFC winning inspite of him etc, remember saying how id never heard of a striker who averaged just under 1 in 2 or one who created so many oppurunities in and around the box come under such fire.

This year just under 1 in 2, same game, same strengths same weaknesses. The only thing thats changed is that Arsenal fans have a close refference point.Its easy to dismiss linkup,arieal ability,strength,angled passes,pulling off the defender,drawing defenders,the balance between a brute ariel threat and intricate ground game etc etc when its always present, take it away , wait somethings not quite right.

Eyes are opened, unfortunatly it took an injury for many to see but quite a few people i know have changed tunes, some noticed when he was out and some came to the realization when he came back.He isnt playing at abnormal level he is playing at his leading striker of AFC, French International, rated by Klopp,rated by Wenger level.

Standard
Still not at last seasons level in and around the box with the extra bit of creative sharpness but i have no doubt he'll get there.

Zedie wrote:

Omphi93 wrote:

DiamondGooner wrote:

Callum wrote:

arsenaltilltheENDbrother wrote:Still anyone laughing about my brother? Keep on hating haters....Giroud till the end...Motm!

You and I have known for some time brother

Others are starting to see the light

Its not that we're starting to see the light .......... its that he's playing better.

There is a difference.

Nothings changed, been playing at a level for a while, in fact this is the same level of performance many have been championing, the change if there was one occured in the break after his first season before his second during that Asiain pre season tour.

Literally playing his textbook game, last year averaging just under 1 in every 2, being top scorer one of the leading creative players was rated second last in the entire squad in player of the year votes,AFC winning inspite of him etc, remember saying how id never heard of a striker who averaged just under 1 in 2 or one who created so many oppurunities in and around the box come under such fire.

This year just under 1 in 2, same game, same strengths same weaknesses. The only thing thats changed is that Arsenal fans have a close refference point.Its easy to dismiss linkup,arieal ability,strength,angled passes,pulling off the defender,drawing defenders,the balance between a brute ariel threat and intricate ground game etc etc when its always present, take it away , wait somethings not quite right.

Eyes are opened, unfortunatly it took an injury for many to see but quite a few people i know have changed tunes, some noticed when he was out and some came to the realization when he came back.He isnt playing at abnormal level he is playing at his leading striker of AFC, French International, rated by Klopp,rated by Wenger level.

Standard
Still not at last seasons level in and around the box with the extra bit of creative sharpness but i have no doubt he'll get there.

Legendary post.

Amazing how him being rotated and remaining fresher has allowed him to play at the energy level he needs to make people notice the things he has always been doing.

His little flicks make the ball and therefore passage of play move a lot quicker, meaning defenses don't have time to set.

His aerial presence means the ball sticks up top for longer.

His movement means others get in to more space for chances.

He's also a big guy so most of the time he does need to be fouled in order to be stopped (if the ref wants to give it or not).

People were so busy tearing into giroud that they didn't stop to actually analyse what he actually does on the pitch for us and how important it is.

That he now has pace merchants to play off him will only do us a solid in the long run.

Pudpop wrote:

Zedie wrote:

Omphi93 wrote:

DiamondGooner wrote:

Callum wrote:

arsenaltilltheENDbrother wrote:Still anyone laughing about my brother? Keep on hating haters....Giroud till the end...Motm!

You and I have known for some time brother

Others are starting to see the light

Its not that we're starting to see the light .......... its that he's playing better.

There is a difference.

Nothings changed, been playing at a level for a while, in fact this is the same level of performance many have been championing, the change if there was one occured in the break after his first season before his second during that Asiain pre season tour.

Literally playing his textbook game, last year averaging just under 1 in every 2, being top scorer one of the leading creative players was rated second last in the entire squad in player of the year votes,AFC winning inspite of him etc, remember saying how id never heard of a striker who averaged just under 1 in 2 or one who created so many oppurunities in and around the box come under such fire.

This year just under 1 in 2, same game, same strengths same weaknesses. The only thing thats changed is that Arsenal fans have a close refference point.Its easy to dismiss linkup,arieal ability,strength,angled passes,pulling off the defender,drawing defenders,the balance between a brute ariel threat and intricate ground game etc etc when its always present, take it away , wait somethings not quite right.

Eyes are opened, unfortunatly it took an injury for many to see but quite a few people i know have changed tunes, some noticed when he was out and some came to the realization when he came back.He isnt playing at abnormal level he is playing at his leading striker of AFC, French International, rated by Klopp,rated by Wenger level.

Standard
Still not at last seasons level in and around the box with the extra bit of creative sharpness but i have no doubt he'll get there.

Legendary post.

Amazing how him being rotated and remaining fresher has allowed him to play at the energy level he needs to make people notice the things he has always been doing.

His little flicks make the ball and therefore passage of play move a lot quicker, meaning defenses don't have time to set.

His aerial presence means the ball sticks up top for longer.

His movement means others get in to more space for chances.

He's also a big guy so most of the time he does need to be fouled in order to be stopped (if the ref wants to give it or not).

People were so busy tearing into giroud that they didn't stop to actually analyse what he actually does on the pitch for us and how important it is.

That he now has pace merchants to play off him will only do us a solid in the long run.

Oh how quickly people seem to forget...

His little flicks were great, and then he started doing them all the time and in the wrong situations, wasting good chances.

His aerial presence is great, until he meets a strong CB that has his number, and he basically becomes a lump standing around upfield (hence people calling him a lamppost)

His movement is great, until we play a team and he spends 90 minutes in the centre of the field waiting around moping (granted, that was because of lack of rotation, but still)

Giroud's problem has always been his consistency. Don't get excited by the fact that he's playing well now. Give it time before we start lauding him as a top striker etc.

DiamondGooner wrote:I think you've mistaken what I mean or have taken it a bit to far.

I said he's "playing better" not that his level as a player has increased or that he's become a super striker he's simply playing well, now with what Giroud does (poaches for goals) him playing better is as Vavavoom pointed out ........ taking his chances.

Yes these goal mouth opportunities in the box from crosses are typical Giroud so no change there but that shot he did 2-3 games ago wasn't typical Giroud and he's also being a bit more mobile popping up in different areas of the pitch.

But I would suggest caution as per usual people (Giroud fans) are celebrating way to early, lets see over the next few games if he A) keeps it up and B) doesn't start messing up chances and looking to the sky's cursing out God again.

Mesüt wrote:He's decent, same as before. Welbeck covers his flaws and he does the same for Welbeck hence it's better now and having both on the pitch works well.

Both aren't top class but can do enough for now.