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Postby S&W the no1Fan » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:44 am

toure and modric are on the same level as ramsey vidal isnt.
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Postby Cripps » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:46 am

Wow

Half a good season and he's the best in the world?

The others mentioned have been doing it for years
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Re: Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle | Premier League 28/04/14

Postby ivän itchybüm » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:09 pm

You ever watched Vidal No1? By that I obviously mean a good amount of times.
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Re: Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle | Premier League 28/04/14

Postby Apollo » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:21 pm

GSK_AFC wrote:Vidal > Ramsey > Toure

Modric is a top 5 CM too but he isn't really a B2B.


When did Ramsey become better than Toure?
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Postby Santi » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:21 pm

vidal is class, get a grip.
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Re: Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle | Premier League 28/04/14

Postby ivän itchybüm » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:22 pm

I think Toure is far better than them all tbh
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Re: Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle | Premier League 28/04/14

Postby gooney » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:25 pm

No1Fan wrote:toure and modric are on the same level as ramsey vidal isnt.

All 3 are easily better than him and I like Ramsey :rofll:
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Re: Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle | Premier League 28/04/14

Postby Apollo » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:29 pm

ivän itchybüm wrote:I think Toure is far better than them all tbh


Agree.

The almighty City cant tie their shoelaces without Toure's influence.
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Re: Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle | Premier League 28/04/14

Postby Gunpowder » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:36 pm

Too early to compare Ramsey with Vidal and Toure. He had better form at some parts but that's it. He has to out perform them in at least one full season, probably two.
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Re: Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle | Premier League 28/04/14

Postby S&W the no1Fan » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:36 pm

ivän itchybüm wrote:You ever watched Vidal No1? By that I obviously mean a good amount of times.


i haven't watched him 50+ games, but i have watched him about 8-15 games. He isnt on ramsey level in my opinion. A very good player i'll admit but i just rate ramsey modric and toure higher. Had ramsey stayed fit all season he would have achieved a similar goal total to yaya imo. We are equally as dependent on ramsey as man city are on toure. Look at how we've fallen without ramsey in midfield. Remember we were top before his injury.
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Re: Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle | Premier League 28/04/14

Postby gooney » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:39 pm

No1Fan wrote:
ivän itchybüm wrote:You ever watched Vidal No1? By that I obviously mean a good amount of times.


i haven't watched him 50+ games, but i have watched him about 8-15 games. He isnt on ramsey level in my opinion. A very good player i'll admit but i just rate ramsey modric and toure higher. Had ramsey stayed fit all season he would have achieved a similar goal total to yaya imo. We are equally as dependent on ramsey as man city are on toure. Look at how we've fallen without ramsey in midfield. Remember we were top before his injury.

Sh1t like this is why other fans laugh at us and how we overrate whenever our players have good form. I mean Wilshere was amazing as well and what happened? Vidal is proven world class midfielder who has been doing it for long time. He would be a Bayern player if Leverkusen didnt refuse to make business.
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Re: Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle | Premier League 28/04/14

Postby S&W the no1Fan » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:47 pm

gooney wrote:
No1Fan wrote:
ivän itchybüm wrote:You ever watched Vidal No1? By that I obviously mean a good amount of times.


i haven't watched him 50+ games, but i have watched him about 8-15 games. He isnt on ramsey level in my opinion. A very good player i'll admit but i just rate ramsey modric and toure higher. Had ramsey stayed fit all season he would have achieved a similar goal total to yaya imo. We are equally as dependent on ramsey as man city are on toure. Look at how we've fallen without ramsey in midfield. Remember we were top before his injury.

Sh1t like this is why other fans laugh at us and how we overrate whenever our players have good form. I mean Wilshere was amazing as well and what happened? Vidal is proven world class midfielder who has been doing it for long time. He would be a Bayern player if Leverkusen didnt refuse to make business.


i rate ramsey above bayerns midfielders too
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Re: Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle | Premier League 28/04/14

Postby Miss Arsenal » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:58 pm

gooney wrote:
No1Fan wrote:
ivän itchybüm wrote:You ever watched Vidal No1? By that I obviously mean a good amount of times.


i haven't watched him 50+ games, but i have watched him about 8-15 games. He isnt on ramsey level in my opinion. A very good player i'll admit but i just rate ramsey modric and toure higher. Had ramsey stayed fit all season he would have achieved a similar goal total to yaya imo. We are equally as dependent on ramsey as man city are on toure. Look at how we've fallen without ramsey in midfield. Remember we were top before his injury.

Sh1t like this is why other fans laugh at us and how we overrate whenever our players have good form. I mean Wilshere was amazing as well and what happened? Vidal is proven world class midfielder who has been doing it for long time. He would be a Bayern player if Leverkusen didnt refuse to make business.



I think the fact that Ramsey has come back from injury and picked up from where he left off kind of dispels the myth that it was just 'good form' The guy has massively improved and now this is just his current level.
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Re: Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle | Premier League 28/04/14

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:18 pm

Toure is right when he says people do not give him enough credit. I like Ramsey and his transformation but it would be an insult for toure to be compared with ramsey at this stageof his carrier. Toure has been consistently outstanding in the last few years. Ramsey has the potential to get there but right now it is not even a contest. Vidal is top class and again easily better than ramsey right now. As i said ramsey may surpass them both in future if he stays fit and maintains his form but right now the duo are clearly better than him.
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Re: Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle | Premier League 28/04/14

Postby gooney » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:24 pm

Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:Toure is right when he says people do not give him enough credit. I like Ramsey and his transformation but it would be an insult for toure to be compared with ramsey at this stageof his carrier. Toure has been consistently outstanding in the last few years. Ramsey has the potential to get there but right now it is not even a contest. Vidal is top class and again easily better than ramsey right now. As i said ramsey may surpass them both in future if he stays fit and maintains his form but right now the duo are clearly better than him.

This is Arsenal where few good months and you are world class :rofll:
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