Myrmedus wrote:Zedie wrote:Massa wrote:Zedie wrote:Massa wrote:Zedie wrote:Massa wrote:Zedie wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:Zinc wrote:The mediocre fan who was actually attending the away game and supporting the team. Yeah, what mediocre away fans we have, they can't hold a candle to the keyboard warriors.
Nice fail.
Yes he goes to games ........ so does that make him all seeing, all knowing?
I'm not questioning his value as a fan of the club I said he's another fan who is happy with the mediocre standards we're now being fed as opposed to when we were a real competitive club.
You don't have to sell me the "respect fans that go to games" line because that's a given, however that doesn't mean he's a fan I have to agree with.
UFGN goes to games, I'll take his perspective over Moh's cheers and thank you.
Even then as I said, I was agreeing with him until the excuses started rolling in like the Queen Mary.
How do you believe Diego Costa would have prevented those goals?
Where did he mention Diego Costa
He mentioned no signings that we all wanted earlier and mentioned he wanted to punch Moh when he said a striker wouldnt have made a difference yesterday.
Diego Costa is such a striker.
It is a bit of a shit excuse because we'd a) have more points so if we did lose it wouldn't matter as much and b) we'd have scored more goals
Are you saying Diego Costa would have scored 6 goals yesterday?
No
But if we were 5 points clear or whatever would it matter
(plus we only needed 5 goals)
Chelsea are ahead of us by 1 point, but behind us by 1 goal. only 2 other teams have more goals scored, City and Lpool. Our defense and midfield f***ked us yesterday, not having a striker like Diego Costa or Berbatov etc.
Of course if we had scored more goals in previous draws/losses we would be better off points wise, but don't kid yourself into thinking yesterday was anything other than a complete failure of the whole team and AW and Messi wouldn't have been able to stop it. It could have ended 5-2, 5-3, 7-3 etc. but it will never change the outcome if the whole team are playing like a pub team.
True.
I do think what we missed yesterday was a proper leader tearing shreds into the team for playing so badly. Usually that would be Mert but he was getting skinned too.
However, I do think we also paid the price for lacking top quality up front AND lacking pace in attack. Liverpool had nothing to worry about really in attacking like they did as we had very little to hit back with.
If we'd had a player like Theo on the pitch, honestly, a simple clearance up field from our defence and Theo would've been bearing down on goal. It would've made Liverpool's tactic too dangerous and they would've either eased off or conceded.
I'm not sure why Gnabry wasn't played but if we're not going to be playing Gnabry in games of this pace then we need to reinforce the pace in our team.
A perfect case for this was the City game. We played poorly there too IMO (not as bad as yesterday, admittedly) and conceded a bucket load but we scored 3 goals. Who scored 2 of them?
That's a fair point, but it still doesn't address the issues we would still have had if the midfield failed to close down, the defense were not marking or picking up positions and the attack kept turning over balls to the opposition.
If you cant even get the ball to a Costa in the box or Walcott on the wing, it doesnt even matter what they can do with the ball!
Its not like we played well but our forward line let us down. To a man we let ourselves down.
@ Massa - if me saying this makes you think i would be fine with a Park playing as striker, then you are missing the point completely and wont accept that the whole team played completely shite.
At a minimum, the team should have kept the score at 0-0 or even 1-0, but they didnt, they f***ing fell apart. You could have current form Suarez up top, but without everyone behind him fighting and closing down like Liverpool did yesterday, it wouldnt have made a difference. Yes defenders would be more cautious, but im sorry, it shouldnt stop them from defending their position.
1 ST could make the world of difference to our play, but a whole team allows that striker to be that difference.