Goonersworld

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:51 pm**

Have we made a sub yet?

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:01 pm**

Popey wrote:would have been a soft pen if given but my colleg (chelsea fan) said it could have been a pen...

the tackle from ramires was dirty. ref wasn't that good but we were also horrible

theo was also invisible yesterday. I think nobody also understands why wenger didn't made a change...

He said he didn't want to upset the balance of the team meaning he was happy to play for a draw.

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:01 pm**

Kalnage wrote:Have we made a sub yet?

No we dont want to ruin the balance we have

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:06 pm**

Balance?! I had more balance last night, after 6 hours with a free bar! I was pissed at the time my works Xmas do was the same night of the game, but after just watching it back, I think I made the right choice.

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:11 pm**

GSK_AFC wrote:
Popey wrote:would have been a soft pen if given but my colleg (chelsea fan) said it could have been a pen...

the tackle from ramires was dirty. ref wasn't that good but we were also horrible

theo was also invisible yesterday. I think nobody also understands why wenger didn't made a change...

He said he didn't want to upset the balance of the team meaning he was happy to play for a draw.

He obviously had Dortmund in his head. We were in a similar situation against the, made changes and went for it, and out of nowhere they got a goal and won it.

He learned from his mistake.

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:24 pm**

ivän itchybüm wrote:
GSK_AFC wrote:
Popey wrote:would have been a soft pen if given but my colleg (chelsea fan) said it could have been a pen...

the tackle from ramires was dirty. ref wasn't that good but we were also horrible

theo was also invisible yesterday. I think nobody also understands why wenger didn't made a change...

He said he didn't want to upset the balance of the team meaning he was happy to play for a draw.

He obviously had Dortmund in his head. We were in a similar situation against the, made changes and went for it, and out of nowhere they got a goal and won it.

He learned from his mistake.

Sometimes gambles pay off and sometimes they do. It was worth gambling for the three points yesterday IMO.

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:29 pm**

GSK_AFC wrote:
Popey wrote:would have been a soft pen if given but my colleg (chelsea fan) said it could have been a pen...

the tackle from ramires was dirty. ref wasn't that good but we were also horrible

theo was also invisible yesterday. I think nobody also understands why wenger didn't made a change...

He said he didn't want to upset the balance of the team meaning he was happy to play for a draw.

Id say its more to the tune of it would have been a savage blow for you to lose 1 - 0 in that game, one the squad could never recover from realistically.
With all of the past mental frailties and that.

I think your pretty lucky Chelsea didnt win 1 - 0 anyway imo :X
You have to laugh at Mourinho some games he just decides right theres no way were going to win here and just does that :X

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:41 pm**

Dejan wrote:
Plymöuth Gööner wrote:Dejan's posts in this thread are bang on the money.

when arent they?

Draaaaaaaaaaaaaaafts

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:55 pm**

billo2007 wrote:
GSK_AFC wrote:
Popey wrote:would have been a soft pen if given but my colleg (chelsea fan) said it could have been a pen...

the tackle from ramires was dirty. ref wasn't that good but we were also horrible

theo was also invisible yesterday. I think nobody also understands why wenger didn't made a change...

He said he didn't want to upset the balance of the team meaning he was happy to play for a draw.

Id say its more to the tune of it would have been a savage blow for you to lose 1 - 0 in that game, one the squad could never recover from realistically.
With all of the past mental frailties and that.

I think your pretty lucky Chelsea didnt win 1 - 0 anyway imo :X
You have to laugh at Mourinho some games he just decides right theres no way were going to win here and just does that :X

I think its very dangerous he plays and it could have easily backfired. We were not great at all. But watch the last Giroud chance when Gibbs plays him in and how the ball takes last ditch touch from cech who doesnt even know where the ball is and it goes over. Had that gone in people would slaughtered Mourinho for negative tactics. Another thing is he could have easily handed us a big blow, instead now we are on same point as the league leaders and more than likely will be first in few days time when we beat West ham and liverpool drop points to City

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:59 pm**

GSK_AFC wrote:
ivän itchybüm wrote:
GSK_AFC wrote:
Popey wrote:would have been a soft pen if given but my colleg (chelsea fan) said it could have been a pen...

the tackle from ramires was dirty. ref wasn't that good but we were also horrible

theo was also invisible yesterday. I think nobody also understands why wenger didn't made a change...

He said he didn't want to upset the balance of the team meaning he was happy to play for a draw.

He obviously had Dortmund in his head. We were in a similar situation against the, made changes and went for it, and out of nowhere they got a goal and won it.

He learned from his mistake.

Sometimes gambles pay off and sometimes they do. It was worth gambling for the three points yesterday IMO.

And if we lose to Chelsea at home? We're then 4th, lost to Chelsea (h), City & Utd (a) with all the critics out again. At least now we're second and on the same points as Liverpool having shown we can do something else than lose when it comes to one of the usual big 3.

@Bearcum - I still find it so funny that the game where Dean celebrated against us is the 1 we've won (5-2) in 15 matches under his reffing!

You can't ignore when the ref is a c***, that was a penalty, we all know Theo cant control the ball or even stand up and then his legs were taken but each to their own.
We didn't win because Mourinho came to kick us off the park and it worked, stopped us playing any good football but who allowed them to get away with it all? Yes Mike Dean. He played a part in the result simple as, don't care if that annoys you Dejan.

Basically what greengoonerie said, I agree.

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:02 pm**

GSK_AFC wrote:
ivän itchybüm wrote:
GSK_AFC wrote:
Popey wrote:would have been a soft pen if given but my colleg (chelsea fan) said it could have been a pen...

the tackle from ramires was dirty. ref wasn't that good but we were also horrible

theo was also invisible yesterday. I think nobody also understands why wenger didn't made a change...

He said he didn't want to upset the balance of the team meaning he was happy to play for a draw.

He obviously had Dortmund in his head. We were in a similar situation against the, made changes and went for it, and out of nowhere they got a goal and won it.

He learned from his mistake.

Sometimes gambles pay off and sometimes they do. It was worth gambling for the three points yesterday IMO.

To concede the goal, go 4th and watch rage erupt? We didn't lose to chelsea but people want to flap because its the done thing on here nowadays.

There's talk about lack of tactics all day from AW, but when he wants to keep a steady ship and play for the point that leaves us joint top, he's doing it wrong

At dortmund we got caught out because of introducing people to an unstable situation, he was doing it wrong.

Ultimately, if we don't find 3 points from somewhere, we are doing something wrong, even if it is against a team that a lot of you are tipping for the league, managed by a guy who most of you believe is a tactical genius.

Mourinho plays for the draw = tactical god

Wenger plays for the draw = r***rd

Cool story bros

This isn't aimed at you btw GSK, its at the general hypocrisy that's on these boards when we lose or draw.

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:04 pm**

This whining about the ref is imo a typical Arsenal behaviour (thanks to Wenger who love to do it, if he had failed once again) always blame other dudes for our own faults, great mentality. And some people here didn't agree that it was a penalty please don't generalize your personal opinion..

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:10 pm**

SchlandGooner wrote:This whining about the ref is imo a typical Arsenal behaviour (thanks to Wenger who love to do it, if he had failed once again) always blame other dudes for our own faults, great mentality. And some people here didn't agree that it was a penalty please don't generalize your personal opinion..

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:13 pm**

Whining about the referee is typical football fan behaviour. No it happens in most sports, it's just a thing humans do. There's no need tomake it sounds as though exclusively Arsenal fans blame the ref for losing the game. I've seen plenty of fans from other clubs do the exact same thing.

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:17 pm**

Was never a penalty and I also don't understand how anyone can place blame on Mike Dean for our failure to perform against a beatable Chelsea side last night. Wenger may have gotten it wrong against Dortmund by putting in 3 players and going for all three points but to not make even a single substitution last night around the 70th minute mark when we were just banging our head against the wall is just inexcusable. Were we playing at the Bridge that we had to employ such a conservative tactic? Chelsea were average but sadly we as the home side looked equally bad apart from Giroud's 2 chances towards the end of the game.. one of which Podolski would have buried in the back of the net btw. I am certain of that.

As much as I despise some of the comments on here re the crap refereeing job from the game, I equally hate having to wake up to online headlines of "Mourinho accuses some of Arsenal's players of being cry babies" or "Wenger's outsmarted by Jose again." Chelsea were BEATABLE and no rain, wind or lack of penalty call is a valid excuse as to why we only got a point off of them. Poor tactics, lack of confidence against a big side and a miss or miss striker are to blame here. Same old, same old..

That's enough negativity for the day. Merry Christmas to all!

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