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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby gooney » Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:47 am

Arsenal are simply not good enough. Im getting fed up with the excuses of refs, mentality etc etc. I honestly dont think our players are that good bat few exceptions. But the main weakness is the manager who is not a winner.
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby Dejan » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:31 am

ivän itchybüm wrote:Better referee and we would have won btw...


go f**k yourself

im sick of f***ing hearing people complain about the f***ing referee and its f***ing doing my head in goddamned.
Grow some fuckking balls. We didnt win becuase we were shit.
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby ThereIsBearCüm » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:37 am

Dejan wrote:
ivän itchybüm wrote:Better referee and we would have won btw...


go f**k yourself

im sick of f***ing hearing people complain about the f***ing referee and its f***ing doing my head in goddamned.
Grow some fuckking balls. We didnt win becuase we were shit.
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby Pudpop » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:41 am

Sorry, but after Arteta's red against Napoli, Giroud's red against Fulham, Van Persie's red against Barca, etc. and all the penalties that Chelsea and Spurs have received this season, you expect us to ignore the challenges from Mikel and Ramires and Theo's penalty?

Ivan said we would have won with a better referee. He's right. If we played better we would have also won. But we're better than Chelsea. Which is why when we played like crap last night we still deserved to win, but the ref cost us.
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby Dejan » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:47 am

Pudpop wrote:Sorry, but after Arteta's red against Napoli, Giroud's red against Fulham, Van Persie's red against Barca, etc. and all the penalties that Chelsea and Spurs have received this season, you expect us to ignore the challenges from Mikel and Ramires and Theo's penalty?


And decisions go never in our favour? its always against the arsenal? every ref hates us right?
And Mikel was a yellow, neville's analysis was spot on. The 'challenge' on theo was way too soft to be given a penalty. If we did that 'challenge' in our box and the ref gave a penalty, everyone would be f***ing fuming. Ramires could of been given a red. Who cares, Ref's are human. We didnt win because of the referee is bullshit mate.

We didnt win because our striker in general failed to score, our manager failed to make any type of subsitutions and in general everyone bar a few were underpar.

Pudpop wrote:Ivan said we would have won with a better referee. He's right. If we played better we would have also won. But we're better than Chelsea. Which is why when we played like crap last night we still deserved to win, but the ref cost us.


We are better than Chelsea? How? We faced them twice and lost once and draw once. Not exactly in our favour, but whatever pleases you dude. How did we deserve to win? Because we had more f***ing posession?!

Our first shot on target came in the 84th minute
Chelsea was more dangerous
Chelsea created more chances
Chelsea hit the woodwork
Chelsea had more shots and more shots on target

but hey, atleast we had more possession so we defo deserved to win.
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby ThereIsBearCüm » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:48 am

Pudpop wrote:Sorry, but after Arteta's red against Napoli, Giroud's red against Fulham, Van Persie's red against Barca, etc. and all the penalties that Chelsea and Spurs have received this season, you expect us to ignore the challenges from Mikel and Ramires and Theo's penalty?

Ivan said we would have won with a better referee. He's right. If we played better we would have also won. But we're better than Chelsea. Which is why when we played like crap last night we still deserved to win, but the ref cost us.


Yes. That's football.
Neither Mikel or Ramires should have seen red, our players have put in tackles like that and not been sent off, and Walcott went down extremely easily, if one of those had been given against us I'd be livid. Also note how you don't count the times when we've benefited from refereeing you disagree with.
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby Angelito » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:49 am

Dejan wrote:
ivän itchybüm wrote:Better referee and we would have won btw...


go f**k yourself

im sick of f***ing hearing people complain about the f***ing referee and its f***ing doing my head in goddamned.
Grow some fuckking balls. We didnt win becuase we were shit.


This.

If we grow a pair and play as we should, none of this would matter. We just piss our pants when we face the big boys. Just damn ridiculous.
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby Pudpop » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:05 pm

Dejan wrote:
Pudpop wrote:Sorry, but after Arteta's red against Napoli, Giroud's red against Fulham, Van Persie's red against Barca, etc. and all the penalties that Chelsea and Spurs have received this season, you expect us to ignore the challenges from Mikel and Ramires and Theo's penalty?


And decisions go never in our favour? its always against the arsenal? every ref hates us right?
And Mikel was a yellow, neville's analysis was spot on. The 'challenge' on theo was way too soft to be given a penalty. If we did that 'challenge' in our box and the ref gave a penalty, everyone would be f***ing fuming. Ramires could of been given a red. Who cares, Ref's are human. We didnt win because of the referee is bullshit mate.

We didnt win because our striker in general failed to score, our manager failed to make any type of subsitutions and in general everyone bar a few were underpar.


I didn't say we didn't win because of the ref. I said if the ref did his bloody job we would have won. I didn't see Neville's analysis, but whatever, call it a yellow. The ref didn't even give bloody advantage.

ThereIsBearCüm wrote:
Pudpop wrote:Sorry, but after Arteta's red against Napoli, Giroud's red against Fulham, Van Persie's red against Barca, etc. and all the penalties that Chelsea and Spurs have received this season, you expect us to ignore the challenges from Mikel and Ramires and Theo's penalty?

Ivan said we would have won with a better referee. He's right. If we played better we would have also won. But we're better than Chelsea. Which is why when we played like crap last night we still deserved to win, but the ref cost us.


Yes. That's football.
Neither Mikel or Ramires should have seen red, our players have put in tackles like that and not been sent off, and Walcott went down extremely easily, if one of those had been given against us I'd be livid. Also note how you don't count the times when we've benefited from refereeing you disagree with.


The 'challenge' on Theo? The last time we've been given a penalty that soft was WBA last year. Yeah, we get some decisions going for us. But do you honestly think that Dean would have done nothing had Ramires gone down in the box? Please.

Pudpop wrote:Ivan said we would have won with a better referee. He's right. If we played better we would have also won. But we're better than Chelsea. Which is why when we played like crap last night we still deserved to win, but the ref cost us.


We are better than Chelsea? How? We faced them twice and lost once and draw once. Not exactly in our favour, but whatever pleases you dude. How did we deserve to win? Because we had more f***ing posession?!

Our first shot on target came in the 84th minute
Chelsea was more dangerous
Chelsea created more chances
Chelsea hit the woodwork
Chelsea had more shots and more shots on target

but hey, atleast we had more possession so we defo deserved to win.[/quote]

I didn't say we were better last night... I'm saying what people have been saying the last week. Chelsea are sh*t, and we're better than them. We played like sh*t, but had the ref sent off one of their two red card challenges, or had given us the clear penalty we should received, we would have won IMO.
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby ThereIsBearCüm » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:11 pm

Pudpop wrote:
ThereIsBearCüm wrote:
Pudpop wrote:Sorry, but after Arteta's red against Napoli, Giroud's red against Fulham, Van Persie's red against Barca, etc. and all the penalties that Chelsea and Spurs have received this season, you expect us to ignore the challenges from Mikel and Ramires and Theo's penalty?

Ivan said we would have won with a better referee. He's right. If we played better we would have also won. But we're better than Chelsea. Which is why when we played like crap last night we still deserved to win, but the ref cost us.


Yes. That's football.
Neither Mikel or Ramires should have seen red, our players have put in tackles like that and not been sent off, and Walcott went down extremely easily, if one of those had been given against us I'd be livid. Also note how you don't count the times when we've benefited from refereeing you disagree with.


The 'challenge' on Theo? The last time we've been given a penalty that soft was WBA last year. Yeah, we get some decisions going for us. But do you honestly think that Dean would have done nothing had Ramires gone down in the box? Please.


Irrelevant, Ramires didn't go down in the box. You can't use hypotheticals to determine whether a referee hates us or not.
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby Pudpop » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:15 pm

ThereIsBearCüm wrote:
Pudpop wrote:
ThereIsBearCüm wrote:
Pudpop wrote:Sorry, but after Arteta's red against Napoli, Giroud's red against Fulham, Van Persie's red against Barca, etc. and all the penalties that Chelsea and Spurs have received this season, you expect us to ignore the challenges from Mikel and Ramires and Theo's penalty?

Ivan said we would have won with a better referee. He's right. If we played better we would have also won. But we're better than Chelsea. Which is why when we played like crap last night we still deserved to win, but the ref cost us.


Yes. That's football.
Neither Mikel or Ramires should have seen red, our players have put in tackles like that and not been sent off, and Walcott went down extremely easily, if one of those had been given against us I'd be livid. Also note how you don't count the times when we've benefited from refereeing you disagree with.


The 'challenge' on Theo? The last time we've been given a penalty that soft was WBA last year. Yeah, we get some decisions going for us. But do you honestly think that Dean would have done nothing had Ramires gone down in the box? Please.


Irrelevant, Ramires didn't go down in the box. You can't use hypotheticals to determine whether a referee hates us or not.


Is it relevant that the last time we received a soft penalty was over a year ago and that we have missed out on two penalties in 2 big games?
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby Arsenal Tone » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:33 pm

Dejan's posts in this thread are bang on the money.
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby ThereIsBearCüm » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:39 pm

Pudpop wrote:
ThereIsBearCüm wrote:
Pudpop wrote:
ThereIsBearCüm wrote:
Pudpop wrote:Sorry, but after Arteta's red against Napoli, Giroud's red against Fulham, Van Persie's red against Barca, etc. and all the penalties that Chelsea and Spurs have received this season, you expect us to ignore the challenges from Mikel and Ramires and Theo's penalty?

Ivan said we would have won with a better referee. He's right. If we played better we would have also won. But we're better than Chelsea. Which is why when we played like crap last night we still deserved to win, but the ref cost us.


Yes. That's football.
Neither Mikel or Ramires should have seen red, our players have put in tackles like that and not been sent off, and Walcott went down extremely easily, if one of those had been given against us I'd be livid. Also note how you don't count the times when we've benefited from refereeing you disagree with.


The 'challenge' on Theo? The last time we've been given a penalty that soft was WBA last year. Yeah, we get some decisions going for us. But do you honestly think that Dean would have done nothing had Ramires gone down in the box? Please.


Irrelevant, Ramires didn't go down in the box. You can't use hypotheticals to determine whether a referee hates us or not.


Is it relevant that the last time we received a soft penalty was over a year ago and that we have missed out on two penalties in 2 big games?


Yes, it happens to every club.
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby Dejan » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:40 pm

Plymöuth Gööner wrote:Dejan's posts in this thread are bang on the money.


when arent they?
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby kazgooner » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:44 pm

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One of them is against City, but not even a yellow in all those situations.
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Re: Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea | Premier League 23/12/13

Postby Popey » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:46 pm

would have been a soft pen if given but my colleg (chelsea fan) said it could have been a pen...

the tackle from ramires was dirty. ref wasn't that good but we were also horrible

theo was also invisible yesterday. I think nobody also understands why wenger didn't made a change...
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