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Re: Man City 6-3 Arsenal | Premier League 14/12/13

Postby mrbuff » Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:52 pm

Dejan wrote:I think I rather have Toure than Vieira.
And if Aguero keeps developping, he'll end up better than bergkamp.


I can't even... Toure is terrible defensively and lazy a lot of the time. The only advantage he has over vieira is maybe being a better goalscorer.
Aguero and bergkamp aren't really the same type of player but its understandable if you prefer to use him as a second striker over bergkamp
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Re: Man City 6-3 Arsenal | Premier League 14/12/13

Postby DiamondGooner » Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:54 pm

Dejan wrote:I think I rather have Toure than Vieira.
And if Aguero keeps developping, he'll end up better than bergkamp.


That bit in bold is blasphemy quite frankly, Bergkamp is twice the footballer Aguero is, the only benefit Aguero has is that he's more active than Dennis was in his later years so get's into scoring positions more, Dennis was a bit static when he got older but his skill level was way above Sergio's.

The Toure / Vieira meh so - so defense I'd prob go with Vieria but all round .......... Toure prob nicks it.

About Bergkamp I think you've forgotten ......... prob need a little reminder.

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Re: Man City 6-3 Arsenal | Premier League 14/12/13

Postby mrbuff » Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:58 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
Dejan wrote:I think I rather have Toure than Vieira.
And if Aguero keeps developping, he'll end up better than bergkamp.


That bit in bold is blasphemy quite frankly, Bergkamp is twice the footballer Aguero is, the only benefit Aguero has is that he's more active than Dennis was in his later years so get's into scoring positions more, Dennis was a bit static when he got older but his skill level was way above Sergio's.

The Toure / Vieira meh so - so defense I'd prob go with Vieria but all round .......... Toure prob nicks it.

About Bergkamp I think you've forgotten ......... prob need a little reminder.



Seriously if your're not using bergkamp as a playmaker toure over vieira is more blasphemy than aguero over bergkamp. Vieira contribution and ability is seemingly massively underrated.
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Re: Man City 6-3 Arsenal | Premier League 14/12/13

Postby Dejan » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:07 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
Dejan wrote:I think I rather have Toure than Vieira.
And if Aguero keeps developping, he'll end up better than bergkamp.


That bit in bold is blasphemy quite frankly, Bergkamp is twice the footballer Aguero is, the only benefit Aguero has is that he's more active than Dennis was in his later years so get's into scoring positions more, Dennis was a bit static when he got older but his skill level was way above Sergio's.

The Toure / Vieira meh so - so defense I'd prob go with Vieria but all round .......... Toure prob nicks it.

About Bergkamp I think you've forgotten ......... prob need a little reminder.




I said if Aguero keeps developping like he is now he will end up better than Bergkamp. Not that he is now.
Auguero is only 25 now.
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Re: Man City 6-3 Arsenal | Premier League 14/12/13

Postby mrbuff » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:13 pm

Aguero is a better striker than bergkamp was. Nothing outrageous about that
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Re: Man City 6-3 Arsenal | Premier League 14/12/13

Postby Zedie » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:21 pm

Dejan wrote:I think I rather have Toure than Vieira.
And if Aguero keeps developping, he'll end up better than bergkamp.


You're sitting too close to your new TV, the microwaves have fried your brain.
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Re: Man City 6-3 Arsenal | Premier League 14/12/13

Postby Dejan » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:28 pm

Zëdië wrote:
Dejan wrote:I think I rather have Toure than Vieira.
And if Aguero keeps developping, he'll end up better than bergkamp.


You're sitting too close to your new TV, the microwaves have fried your brain.


keep up the bias son
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Re: Man City 6-3 Arsenal | Premier League 14/12/13

Postby DiamondGooner » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:55 pm

mrbuff wrote:Aguero is a better striker than bergkamp was. Nothing outrageous about that



Watch that video and tell me Aguero can do that? no he fkin can't, have some respect you plastic!! :angry:


....... and to Dejan, Ageuro could live to 100 and not develop that sort of ball control, its not going to happen, if I needed a goal it would be near 50/50 who you'd choose but the skill level is nowhere near and younger Dennis all day long even for the goals.

Just look at 3:30 Aguero doesn't do anything like that.
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Re: Man City 6-3 Arsenal | Premier League 14/12/13

Postby Massa » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:57 pm

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DiamondGooner wrote:Doesn't Yaya Toure & Fernandinho at CM remind you a bit of Vieira & Gilberto Silva.

:crybaby:

Navas, Ljungberg.... Nasri, Pires.... Aguero, Bergkamp... Negredo, Henry...

We have something similar bar a top #9 and a top partner for Ramsey


mate horrible horrible comparisons apart from fernandinho toure the rest are way off

No player is a carbon copy ffs. System wise and how how the players operate it is similar.
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Re: Man City 6-3 Arsenal | Premier League 14/12/13

Postby Angelito » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:58 pm

Aguero is world class but Bergkamp was universal class, if there's such a category. And I love Aguero.
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Re: Man City 6-3 Arsenal | Premier League 14/12/13

Postby mrbuff » Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:29 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
mrbuff wrote:Aguero is a better striker than bergkamp was. Nothing outrageous about that



Watch that video and tell me Aguero can do that? no he fkin can't, have some respect you plastic!! :angry:


....... and to Dejan, Ageuro could live to 100 and not develop that sort of ball control, its not going to happen, if I needed a goal it would be near 50/50 who you'd choose but the skill level is nowhere near and younger Dennis all day long even for the goals.

Just look at 3:30 Aguero doesn't do anything like that.


I was comparing aguero to invincibles bergkamp. I said they're not the same type of player. Bergkamp was unique, but in and around the box aguero is a better striker than bergkamp was in that team. Not a better player though. Aguero doesn't have the creativity or influence bergkamp did.
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Re: Man City 6-3 Arsenal | Premier League 14/12/13

Postby Royal Gooner » Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:32 pm

mrbuff wrote:Aguero is a better striker than bergkamp was. Nothing outrageous about that

aguero is shit compared to bergkamp.
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Re: Man City 6-3 Arsenal | Premier League 14/12/13

Postby GSK_AFC » Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:45 pm

mrbuff wrote:
Dejan wrote:I think I rather have Toure than Vieira.
And if Aguero keeps developping, he'll end up better than bergkamp.


I can't even... Toure is terrible defensively and lazy a lot of the time. The only advantage he has over vieira is maybe being a better goalscorer.
Aguero and bergkamp aren't really the same type of player but its understandable if you prefer to use him as a second striker over bergkamp

Agree with this. Toure is stronger physically than Vieira though but I'd have Vieira over Toure every day of the week.
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