07/07/20 | Arsenal 1-1 Leicester City | Premier League

Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby Godlop » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:26 pm

themessiah wrote:
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StockGooner wrote:Arteta's fault for not scoring chances in the 1st half? Hardly.
He put out a team that created chances and created some great opportunities.

i think his subs might have come on sooner, but didn't get chance due to a lazy tackle from Eddie.

If people blame Arteta for this result they are mad.




Red card was unfortunate but finish our chances in the first half we win, tbf


Both can be true and influence the result. We should've scored more but also should've won without finishing those chances if we didn't get robbed of a player.

At least if Leicester had scored 11 vs 11 it wouldn't be so f***ing annoying. Before the subs it did look like they would score anyway but a man less isn't going to help.



Maybe Eddie was not the man to bring on in a game like this. Laca was actually been decent today and with his experience it should’ve seen us out with a win. You could say If he didn’t come on we wouldn’t have gone to 10 men and sat back allowing Leicester to pressure us for the next 20 odd minute


Laca was tired in the 2nd half. Bringing on Eddie or moving Auba to the middle would've been the right decision.
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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby Losmeister » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:35 pm

fwiw, VAR inconclusive should = call on the filed stands
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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby Jack The Ripper » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:41 pm

The ref cost us NOTHING.

The Eddie challenge was a straight red, totally missed the ball and went hard with studs. The goal was a goal from Vardy, not offside at all, Kolasnic was playing everyone onside. Right decision and correct.

We did not win because of ourselves and thats why we are in the position we are in after 34 matches played, its on us. We was awesome in the first half, we could have been 4-0 up, we played some great moves but we allowed the game to get scrappy and we coasted, we just rested on 1-0 and thats so dangerous, we let them get back into it and you can only do that if you have a big lead. Its our own fault. Lucky to get a draw in the end because of our own poor game tactics, never ever allow the game to coast when you are only winning by 1 goal, its so risky, anything can happen.
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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby Ach » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:44 pm

Reminds me of a game v Newcastle 12/13 years ago

They kicked us all over the park. Ref did f all. Gilberto gave some back. Was sent off.

It's been going on for years.
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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby Zenith » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:49 pm



Plus he looked further offside when Ayoze touched the ball.

Admittedly it's hard to tell from this angle, but to me it looks like the top of Vardy's shoulder is further ahead than Mustafi's foot.

Remember, any body part with which one can score a legitimate goal (which includes the top of the shoulder) can be flagged offside.

Is this confirmation bias from our side or did we get screwed again?
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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby Losmeister » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:50 pm

Ach wrote:Reminds me of a game v Newcastle 12/13 years ago

They kicked us all over the park. Ref did f all. Gilberto gave some back. Was sent off.

It's been going on for years.


we've been on opposite sies of arguments for years it seems,

but REALLY...

i said before, i hate being THAT guy.. but ffs.... teh refs seems unbalanc our games on the regular...

am a NY Jets fan in the nfl...Tom Brady'sOL could actually takcle people from behind...no call...
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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:00 pm

It was a clear red card. Unfortunate, but no excuses.
But, Vardy's goal was quite clearly offside.

VAR worked in one instance and failed in another - both at our expense.
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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby Godlop » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:07 pm

jayramfootball wrote:It was a clear red card. Unfortunate, but no excuses.
But, Vardy's goal was quite clearly offside.

VAR worked in one instance and failed in another - both at our expense.


Pretty much what is happening all season.
Also Vardy's kick against Mustafi looks very intentional from a different angle. VAR should've looked at it.
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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby alexafc12 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:39 pm

You can make any challenge look malicious and much worse than it actually is if you watch it in slow speed from non-natural angles.

The refs should play back the challenges at normal speed. It sometimes feels like they're going out of their way to find a decision to make / overturn.
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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:39 pm

Godlop wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:It was a clear red card. Unfortunate, but no excuses.
But, Vardy's goal was quite clearly offside.

VAR worked in one instance and failed in another - both at our expense.


Pretty much what is happening all season.
Also Vardy's kick against Mustafi looks very intentional from a different angle. VAR should've looked at it.


VAR was specifically implemented to enhance the opportunity to cheat.
In that respect, it is working fine.
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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby Zenith » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:57 pm

Make sure to read the whole thread.









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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby VCC » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:48 pm

What a game of two halves
First half exceptional great goal loads of chances on another day we may have scored 3
2nd half they came out as expected but we kept our shape. The eddie sending off changed the tie completely, I am not going to get bent out of shape, he is young and had been playing well and his tackle is what you get from a young inexperienced player, ffs we have at least 3 experienced players on the pitch every week with an error in them at any stage that can cost us.Eddie will have enough players advising him to get to speed with a game before going for the hail mary 50/50.
Possitive after the sending off was they kept their shape and really worked for each other.i like what i am seeing from Artetas leadership he is gradually winning me over.
Referee decisions are a mute argument for me the score will read the same tomorrow as it does today.
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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby swipe right » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:08 am

3-4-3 is the right combination for us. It brings out the best in Luiz and Mustafi, gives us width in attack without compromising the back line and helps us keep our shape better. We should just stick with this formation.
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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal vs Leicester City | Premier League

Postby EliteKiller » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:50 am

More and more matches hinging on the man in the VAR Box ... right or wrong is this what should now decide football matches?
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Re: 07/07/20 | Arsenal 1-1 Leicester City | Premier League

Postby Phil71 » Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:58 am

If the VAR refs looked at it for four minutes and still couldn't decide they should have given the benefit of the doubt to the player.
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