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Postby jayramfootball » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:42 pm

Losmeister wrote:the above is not a defense of wenger, really... it was time for a new era... yall were just deluded to think it was so sure that we'd improve...


Not correct.
Those paying attention knew only too well the damage that Wenger had done to the club, over a long period, would result in a serious decline that would take many years to recover from.
The fastest way out of it - 10 years or so - is to completely gut the squad and every member of staff and start fresh.
Everything that Wenger touched and every player or staff member that had any overlap with anyone associated with the Wenger era needs to be purged.
Only then can we truly start the recovery.

Appointing a captain who played under Wenger was the very worst thing we could have done.
The club has Wenger's stench all over it again.
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Re: 20/06/20 | Brighton 2-1 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby DiamondGooner » Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:36 am

Losmeister wrote:the above is not a defense of wenger, really... it was time for a new era... yall were just deluded to think it was so sure that we'd improve...


Yeah but we as fans can't be responsible for this fkin sh*t boards decisions.

No fan here has had their top 3 choice of manager, none on this whole board, nowhere near in fact.

Truth is we couldn't get a decent manager because they were all put off by the board and their demands.

E.g Get top 4 with a £60m budget, We're offering much less than what we paid Wenger, We control what players we sign and sell ....... sound good?

To top it off we've been a club in turmoil with the fans etc, that is why our managers list was so sh*t.

Even Gazidis bailed ffs.

No decent manager wants to be told the above, not exactly appealing is it?
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Re: 20/06/20 | Brighton 2-1 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Gordon Bennit » Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:28 am

Losmeister wrote:wenger out, getting 4th is mediocre...

i tolya... be careful of what you wish for....


I hated this shit when the pundits were saying it as if we were Charlton ousting Curbishly or Stoke sacking Pulis, not that I'm saying you mean the same thing. The whole 'be careful what you wish for' was such a trite and hackneyed cliche as if Wenger leaving would precipitate some sort of cataclysmic downturn. What no one in the spoken or written media would acknowledge (or even realise at the very least) was that this downturn was already here.
A 5th place with no CL followed up by 6th place. We were already going downhill which is why a change is needed. The world and his dog knew this should have been done years earlier but for some reason, no one will say it.

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oh well... you guys bitched and moaned and i tolya that you didnt know what the hell it was to root for a team that was truly poor... and this is just the 2nd year of it....the taste doesnt get better[/quote]

It wasn't just the 2nd year though. How many teams in the Premier League have conceded 8 goals in a game? Arsenal lost 8-0 to Loughborough in 1896 but seriously, how many? Thrown in a recent half dozen against Chelsea and a couple of Anfield hammerings while we're at it. Of course we're not truly poor, but if you are the 3rd most successful team in the country (built over a century not a decade of oil lubing) and have both a turnover and wage bill that are among the highest in your own league, then those thumpings should not be happening. And no top team, who should be careful what they wish for, should ever, ever have to face Bayern Munich with Yaya Sanogo in the team. Yet we did.

So the decline was already there. Years of poor recruitment, combined with horrible luck in the property slump as well as the injury list , followed by a lack of testicular fortitude when it came to hard boardroom level decisions all topped off by the real and probably unresolvable calamity to let Kroenke anywhere hear the club.

We aren't paying the price for sacking Wenger, we're paying the exact price the dippers did when they decided that the best way to recapture the glory of the 80s was to sign players like Dicks, Ruddock, Picnic and Harkness. Roy Evans as manager. To stay on top, you get what is better than you already have. We couldn't/didn't do that. Not with Denilson, Senderos, Gervinho or Chamakh.

Now, as Bob Wilson described 1953-1968 in the Centenary video (yep, I had it on VHS like an old fart), we're set for a spell in the doldrums. Arteta's (or whoever) job shouldn't be to get us in the Champions League, but to actually stop us from being a perennial Everton-esque halfway irrelevance. Might be too big for him.
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Postby indy23 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:05 am

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