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gooney wrote:

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Santi wrote:Exactly, a worse group of players (without Aubameyang as well) last year got to the EL semi final and narrowly lost to the winners, with a better manager and CL quality team.


The players aren’t all bad at all ffs.

Last years team was utter tripe, with the worst manager in the PL.
Emery has added some good players and we look better - but it will take time. As long as it takes to remove every player Wenger ever signed or coached.

how do we look better? We are on course to concede more, we create less, shoot less and hit the target less. We could very well score less despite having a freakish period where laca and auba were converting 70% of their chances. And we dont look to improve our position

We have more points.
Until all Wenger's players are gone - they are all sh*t - things won't improve dramatically.

And if we let him buy 20+ players and we are still. Do we sack him and tell the next manager we will let you buy your whole squad before we judge you? Yeah it doesnt work like that

Perhaps you should let him have a couple of seasons - given he's doing better than Wenger did at the same stage despite having to deal with the utter mess Wenger made of the club.

if we get knocked out of the europa league in the next 2 rounds would you say he did better? with a better squad at his disposal?

we're not finishing top four either that dream died about a month ago

wenger was a 50 year old boxer who should have been forced to retire years ago. There is no way wengers last season should be a standard next manager is judged by. Being manager involves more than buying players. We have no set of play after 8 months....I watch us and cant point to what we are trying to do and that is the scariest part. Even Burnley has a way of playing

The tactics in the 2nd half today were spot on.
We played on the break at 2-0 up. Smart.
We'd have won by 5 clear goals if not for the utter dross signed or coached by Wenger.

If you think the tactics of being dominated by Huddersfield were smart then you’re completely deluding yourself

We’re Arsenal, not Burnley

Sims wrote:If you think the tactics of being dominated by Huddersfield were smart then you’re completely deluding yourself

We’re Arsenal, not Burnley

Agreed, but also don't think it was tactical. Couldn't keep a hold of the ball, and couldn't get out of our own half. Lost the ball with sloppy passing far to often.

We weren't in control of that game and whatever we had planned before the game didn't go according to plan.

The players are low on confidence and Emery needs to find a way to turn it around because I high doubt that performance was a confidence boost.

Ach wrote:You don't give a shit about trophies?

Lol

Proves his whole mindset is f***ked

Shambolic performance. We need to be patient though. Let's see what we do in the summer.

Interesting game, we certainly were not in 'complete control' but we always had the upper hand. One of the areas we've been weak in for a long time is 'putting the foot in' and giving away cheap free-kicks to break up opponents play ... City and Spuds are masters at 'the niggle foul' against Huddersfield we committed 17 fouls pretty sure that's a season's high, most of these were done to break up Huddersfield's play, that's clearly deliberate tactics.

Whilst we still look a bit all over the place there are signs that Emery is starting to impose himself on the squad, today with no Auba, Ramsey, Ozil, Xhaka I think we got a look at where our future lies ... Auba will be back the other three maybe not ....

Just seen it again, was a certain penalty against kos for handball but not given. That’s 2 in 2 weeks, we really shouldn’t complain about refs this season lol

Kos extremely lucky

Time he put his career to bed

Have we broken the shit teams playing shit, plays v us and win curse?

Great exhibition of skills and tactics against a pub side! Looks like we have settled down well as a midtable team. Great going!!

ag6789 wrote:Great exhibition of skills and tactics against a pub side! Looks like we have settled down well as a midtable team. Great going!!

Point behind fourth

Some midtable side

I am sorry but some of you are complete and utter embarrassments.

But before anyone wants to accuse me of being up Emery's backside, please read my comments in this thread where I was severely critical of his tactics and team selection yesterday.

The usual suspects (Angelito in particular and others) have no sense of perspective or understanding at all.

I do not accept this revisionism of Wenger's latter years where we played "attractive football". No - the football we played was equally as drab and where we put in some of the worst, most gutless and spineless displays known to man. Where we passed the ball around with no intensity or purpose. Where any team that showed even a smidgen of physicality, we would fold like a pack of cards.

We already have more away wins this season than we did for the entirety of last season. It's only February.

We have more points and scored more goals than this point last season. We are also not cut adrift from the top 4 (though I do not think we will get it).

We are one of the favourites for the Europa League. We are a solitary point off Manchester United in 4th.

And this is despite us having one of the worst injury crises we've ever had, where 3 of our first choice back 4 are injured, 3 important players have had season-ending injuries, we've got the worst squad out of all the top 6 and we have strapped for cash (mainly down to self-sabotage admittedly).

People talk about us winning cups and competing for top 4 under Wenger when he's the reason the squad is in the sorry state it is in currently. Tell me - did winning 3 FA Cups in 4 years mean we had progressed? Were fans happy? Or were people calling for Wenger's head despite the cup wins because all they did were mask our structural deficiencies?

When other clubs were making movements, looking to improve and increase their chances of success, he was dithering because he didn't want to kill Giroud's career...

When you have ex-Arsenal players saying that the coaching staff at the club weren't good enough, yet Wenger persisted with keeping them anyway, is it any wonder we haven't seen any development in our players?

When David Ornstein - one of the most reliable sources of intel there is - is saying that people within the club felt Wenger had too much power and authority at the club to the point where he felt infallible, people are acting as if pastures new was not only necessary, but needed for the sake of the club's future.

It's Emery's first season, you're expecting him to win everything in sight when the main priority for this season is to get into the CL (which has to take precedence over a trophy in the short-term due to the additional income). He was always going to make some mistakes in his first season.

As for money being an excuse - people can say it is an excuse all they want, it doesn't change the reality. A HUGE part of the reason why we are in the mess we are in is because we wasted money on the wrong players either through transfers or contract extensions. Other clubs were bound to catch up. This has been an issue that preceded Emery.

Our defensive issues have been prevalent well before Emery was manager. In fact, it's been all people have spoken about us for the last 10 years. It takes time to change mentalities, let alone personnel.

As for having no recognised identity, I'm not sure what you want me to say. We were playing good stuff up until December time and since then we have not played that well, yeah. Injuries to your key players will influence that, though. When you then factor in the lack of quality and depth we had already, it doesn't exactly enhance our chances of playing good football.

So, considering all the external and internal factors, Emery's not done a bad job so far.

Is he faultless? Absolutely not. I have been critical of him plenty of times.

But I refuse to be drawn into this doom mongering when it is abundantly clear some of you never wanted him to succeed in the first place.

To which I say: go f**k yourselves.

BrunelGooner wrote:To be honest, if we can't beat Huddersfield Town without Aubameyang and Ozil, we may as well delete the entire club.

They have 11 points, are getting beaten by everyone and have no hope of survival.

We have more than enough quality to beat this lot ffs.

Anything other than a win would be shameful.

Derby got the lowest ever points total in the premier league
11 in 07/08
1 of them came at home to man city
For shame

BS221B wrote:The roster Emery field is worse than Evertons team by 100%.

Everton 1 Huddersfield 1

Godlop wrote:Huddersfield are clearly the worst team in the league.

Anything under 3 goals would be a dissapointment.

Huddersfield 0 spurs 2
Huddersfield 0 Liverpool 1