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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:17 pm

Godlop wrote:Playing against a shit team on Boxing day is always a free win.

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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby UFGN » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:25 pm

starmandb wrote:
Godlop wrote:Playing against a shit team on Boxing day is always a free win.

99/00
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Got rellied

Lost their ground

Nearly went to the wall

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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:16 pm

alexafc12 wrote:Lol Unai getting schooled by Chris Hughton. Brilliant

10/11
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Arsenal 0 Newcastle 1
Ancelotti
Newcastle 1 Chelsea 1
12/13
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Norwich 1 Arsenal 0
Ferguson
Norwich 1 man Utd 0
Mancini
Man city 2 norwich 3
17/18
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Brighton 2 Arsenal 1
Maurinho
Brighton 1 man Utd 0
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Brighton 3 man Utd 2
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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:25 pm

Santi wrote:we deserve nothing from this game

We put the ball between those goalposts and over the line once as did Brighton
You get a point for that
No need for handwringing
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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:28 pm

Rockape wrote:Think I might be washing my hair during the Liverpool game!

How long is it for f**k sake?
You have 140 hours
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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:44 pm

Cannoner wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Cannoner wrote:
theHotHead wrote:I just don't see what Emery has done to improve us defensively. That at least has been in his hands. Brighton look like they will have a shot on goal with every attack.


Managers usually fix the attack then move onto the defence. Look at Klopp and Pep.

Our attack wasn't the problem. We conceded over 50 goals last season, that was and still is the bloody problem!!


City had a good attack too. Point is managers come in and focus on the attacking half first, then once that's set they work their way backwards. Once Klopp fine tuned Liverpool's attack he then sprinkled VVD and Alisson on top, to complete the balance.

Guardiola first 28 games at city
W 17 d 6 lost 5
Emery w 18 d 6 l 4
Scored 1 more than us
Conceded 1 more than us
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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:50 pm

Santi wrote:We need Cazorla back ffs, our CM options are horrible and create nothing. A winger would go a long way to help but then it'll be all on him and he'd get doubled up.

In cazorla, s last 15 games for Arsenal we lost 2-1 at west brom and drew 1-1 at Norwich
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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:55 pm

Sims wrote:Just an average manager at an average club with average player

Same shit for five years

Nothing average about this club
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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:57 pm

theHotHead wrote:And we were very lucky in quite a few of those 22 games we went unbeaten.

You need luck
It used to be an Arsenal nickname
I am delighted if lucky Arsenal is back
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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:01 pm

Ach wrote:
gooney wrote:look all the negative nancies.......few weeks ago everything was great despite pretty much playing same unimpressive football and riding our luck. Now the luck has dried out which it was bound to you all sound like me. Atleast I have been consistent in not rating this manager and his treatment of laca means he deserved to be removed now. Having said that I was laughing so much during that second half....brough in bunch of technically retarded players expected them to break down brighton. When AMN who is so bad is your hope, a guy who has maybe had 1 good game in his senior career then you know you are fecked. I am actually glad we didnt win, I would hate that spanish c*** to get away with a win after his management today. Sack him today

Could be worse

Could have your beloved Wenger in charge

Oh no mate
There is nothing he likes about Arsenal
At Christmas with loads going on
The best he can do is come on an Arsenal forum and troll
With Mary poppins at the cinema as well
It's a pity really
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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:03 pm

weaponx57 wrote:We miss out on great managers because Kroenke is f***ing American c*** plain and simple...while he is owner we will never ever ever win the league guaranteed. And now he owns 100% of the club....expect him to milk the living shit out of it so he can support his teams in the USA who play sports which are meant for retards.

Who is this great manager who has done better in his first 28 games?
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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:04 pm

indy23 wrote:
weaponx57 wrote:We miss out on great managers because Kroenke is f***ing American c*** plain and simple...while he is owner we will never ever ever win the league guaranteed. And now he owns 100% of the club....expect him to milk the living shit out of it so he can support his teams in the USA who play sports which are meant for retards.


Only two managers we missed out on was pep and klopp. That's it. Enrique is shit and Allegri isn't leaving Juventus to join a budget top 6 team.

And emery has had a better start in England than both of them
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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:12 pm

BrunelGooner wrote:Rubbish team selection, rubbish tactics, rubbish substitutions, rubbish performance, rubbish result.

Totally embarrassing all round.

There was no urgency, no speed and no intensity to our game.

I get we have an injury crisis right now, but for f**k's sake, at least field a side that is sensible.

Starting a 34 year old Lichsteiner, who provided no width or overlapping runs at all, against a Brighton side with tricky, pacy wingers is a joke. He was exposed constantly, yet Emery kept him on and took Koscielny, who looked comfortable for most of the game, off? Why revert to a back 4 when Kolasinac is ineffective there? His skills as a wingback are curbed in that formation and given that we lacked width as it was, it just made us even less effective. We didn't stretch them at all.

Why was Torreira playing so high up the field when we needed him to be the midfield general? What was Guendouzi supposed to be? Why take Ozil off at half-time when we need creativity? Why take Lacazette off when we are searching for a goal with 30 minutes to go? Why was Xhaka collecting the ball so deep and trying to dictate play from a deep position when we know that's not what he's good at?

Games like today really make me realise just how long we have to go before being a top side again. We are MILES behind Liverpool, Spurs and City.

We didn't control the game at all and Brighton should have won.

I don't want to sound too reactionary. But my patience with Emery is beginning to wear thin.

This result is no better than a loss.

1 point is always better than none
We have won a league on goal difference
88/89
We drew at Luton
And at home to Sheffield weds and charlton
Take away any of them points you are taking away that title
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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby BrunelGooner » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:38 pm

starmandb wrote:
BrunelGooner wrote:Rubbish team selection, rubbish tactics, rubbish substitutions, rubbish performance, rubbish result.

Totally embarrassing all round.

There was no urgency, no speed and no intensity to our game.

I get we have an injury crisis right now, but for f**k's sake, at least field a side that is sensible.

Starting a 34 year old Lichsteiner, who provided no width or overlapping runs at all, against a Brighton side with tricky, pacy wingers is a joke. He was exposed constantly, yet Emery kept him on and took Koscielny, who looked comfortable for most of the game, off? Why revert to a back 4 when Kolasinac is ineffective there? His skills as a wingback are curbed in that formation and given that we lacked width as it was, it just made us even less effective. We didn't stretch them at all.

Why was Torreira playing so high up the field when we needed him to be the midfield general? What was Guendouzi supposed to be? Why take Ozil off at half-time when we need creativity? Why take Lacazette off when we are searching for a goal with 30 minutes to go? Why was Xhaka collecting the ball so deep and trying to dictate play from a deep position when we know that's not what he's good at?

Games like today really make me realise just how long we have to go before being a top side again. We are MILES behind Liverpool, Spurs and City.

We didn't control the game at all and Brighton should have won.

I don't want to sound too reactionary. But my patience with Emery is beginning to wear thin.

This result is no better than a loss.

1 point is always better than none
We have won a league on goal difference
88/89
We drew at Luton
And at home to Sheffield weds and charlton
Take away any of them points you are taking away that title


I take your point, but you can't compare seasons from 30 years ago to current seasons.

No two seasons are ever the same.

Wenger won his 1st PL title with 78 points.

78 points would have gotten us 3rd place last season, joint 3rd place the season before, 3rd place in 2014-15, and wouldn't have even been enough for 4th place in 2013-14.

The consistency of Spurs, Liverpool and City is remarkable. We need to be matching/bettering their results if we want to be getting into the top 4. The only reason why Chelsea aren't mentioned in addition to that triad is because their strikers can't hit a barn door. But should they rectify that issue in January, which it seems like they will, it will be even tougher to break into the top 4.

A draw is better than a loss, yes, but in the context of how this season has gone, it does us no favours when the teams above us keep winning.
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Re: 26/12/18 | Brighton vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:48 pm

Interest: waning wrote:Pathetic. We once had Henry, Pires and Bergkamp.

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01/02
Us 1 Newcastle 3( 1-1 when bergkamp came on)
Us 1 Southampton 1
Won a double that season
We are 2 points better off at this stage of the season when we were then

03/04
Spurs 2 us 2

04/05
Us 1 west brom 1
All involved bergkamp Henry pires
Al teams in a position of Brighton or lower
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