Cannoner wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:Cannoner wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:Cannoner wrote:Santi wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:Interest: waning wrote:Santi wrote:Rather progress in a cup and have a chance to win it than throw that away for a game at home to Burnley.
Emery's been getting his priorities wrong so far (Hudds over Man Utd and Qarabag over Saints) so let's see what he does this week. Should just play the best team in both but it's the defence where we have a problem.
Are you mad? I couldn't care less about the Worthington Shite.
Have you not noticed we are now trailing quite badly in the race for Top 4 in the league?
It's all going tits up and our team is shit.
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Well I'm glad you said it, I was going to say the same but a lot less polite.
Rather progress in a cup (the carabao cup of all things) than win a prem game, when we're fighting for top 4"???
Sometimes you come out with the weirdest sh*t, speechless.
Cannoner wrote:Can't believe what I'm reading, people happy with a loss to Spurs. We need to beat them c***.
No question.
We're not happy with a loss to Spurs, its about priorities, end game, I'd rather finish above Spurs than stretch our team in a pointless cup (this season) when we tbh need as less comps as possible, we need to give 100% to the league and the Europa, that's it.
We already beat Spurs when it mattered, I'd happily give them this game just to crash out of the Carabao and finish above them and beat them again in the Prem in the next game ......... when it actually matters.
Who cares about top 4 you boring bastards? You slagged Wenger going for top 4 for years now you want it over trophies? My god, the era of the modern fan or what.
Rather win the community shield than top 4 and nothing ffs, you don't remember coming 4th, you remember getting destroyed by Barcelona and days out at Wembley.
They can gloat to their grandkids about that time when Unai Emery came in and got top 4 in his first season
I'd rather gloat about him winning a trophy in his first season
So would you rather win the Europa or the Carabao cup?
This response will very telling, drum roll please, we're about to find out a lot in this answer.
We can win both. After Liverpool at home on 29/12 we have Fulham at home then FA cup the week after. We can rotate and players can get a 2 week rest
............. I would happily agree if our players weren't dropping like flies.
Bellerin out, Kos may as well be out with that last performance, Rob Holding out, Welbeck out.
We're a bit light squad wise and the Europa and the Prem are the hardest but most rewarding comps and we're in a shout for both of those, I'd rather win the Europa and make a good crack at the Prem seeing as we're right there then over stretch the squad and end up losing games like Southampton.
If we were 8th I'd be singing a different tune, but we're 5th, if we give up now on the prem then that 22 unbeaten run will be for nothing.
I understand where you are coming from but a win builds confidence and enhances the mentality of the players, so there's a lot of up side in beating your nearest rivals twice in the space of a few weeks. In the words of Zlatan, the players will feel like lions.
At the moment Unai has one over Poch but if they beat us I worry what effect that would have in their managerial battle and it'll give Spurs confidence against Unai's Arsenal. 2-0 to Unai could be mentally damaging.
I do not want to lose against these lot. We have Burnley at home and Brighton away next up, maybe we could rotate then.
When you put it like this, I do understand your argument. But let me just make clear - for the THIRD time - I do not want to lose against Spurs. What I am saying is we need to be intelligent about how we focus on the upcoming matches because the first team squad will be relied on a lot and we have bad injuries piling up. I am willing to take the risk and play a weakened side against them because the League Cup isn't a priority for our season objectives. We already beat them in the game that matters anyway.
However, I completely disagree with rotating against Burnley and Brighton. The league is our bread and butter. We need to put everything into the Premier League and the Europa.
This is the point I'm trying to make.
We are still in a rebuilding phase. To get the best players, and to retain our best players, we need Champions League football. This is not me being defeatist, this is just the reality of modern day football.
Winning the FA Cup or League Cup, unfortunately, will not help us buy big name players. Especially as the prize money is absolutely rubbish. And the inflated transfer fees aren't going to stop soaring, even for average players.
Wenger didn't get mocked for constantly finishing in the top 4, he got mocked because he said it was a trophy. There's a clear distinction there.
Despite those words, he still managed to win 3 FA Cups in 4 years. As we have already ended our trophy drought, and won multiple FA Cups, our concern right now should be trying to build a squad that can compete for major honours for many years to come.
We want to be winning league titles and Champions Leagues. Sacrificing our injury-plagued squad for domestic cup competitions is not going to help us do that.