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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby thebigbangtheo » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:16 am

yadunoe wrote:Good to hear sokratis is back hes been solid. Torry needs to start i still want to see the 4-4-2 diamond its the only way to get auba n laca up top n firing together have auba perched on the left making runs in behind n cutting in on his right boot. Laca holding up play centrally n linking up with auba ozil feeding them the ball and a strong base of xhaka torry mikhi behind for support


The diamond midfield with Xhaka on the left is a viable option and could work to showcase him in a better light both on and off the ball.

However, much would depend upon the formation and quality of the opposition.

4-3-3 is like the antidote to any 4-4-2 set-up, hence why it is often considered a bit dated by coaches unless you are packing top quality players for each midfield and defensive role like a Man City, and even then a 4-3-3 like Chelsea of old mastered would likely subdue then overpower it 8 times out of 10.

Give Monreal Clichy or Cole's turn of pace and I'd be less concerned about Xhaka's limitations being likely to be targeted and exposed.

And as good as el Torrito is, the Star Wars Death Star battle scene cry of 'They're all over me, they're all over me' suddenly springs to mind.

As such the possible gain of having Laccazette and Aubameyang as a traditional pairing with Ozil at the tip of the diamond, might not balance out against the probable loss of central midfield and result in a game like Liverpool at home last year.

But against the right opposition it could be utilised as a viable tactical switch in my opinion, personnel permitting.
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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby Ach » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:40 am

Rockape wrote:First visit this season I hasten to add! Gonna struggle to rip myself away from the Ryder Cup though....awesome event!

Arsenal match or golf? Lol only one winner. If you have insomnia though then I guess golf is the sport.
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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby Rockape » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:33 am

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Rockape wrote:First visit this season I hasten to add! Gonna struggle to rip myself away from the Ryder Cup though....awesome event!

Arsenal better than watching men dressed as pimps all day long


Bit unfair on the Watford strip! :biggrin:
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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby Pudpop » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:04 pm

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No Sokratis so need a good performance from our attack to make up for the inevitable 2 goals conceded
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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby Ach » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:05 pm

Xhaka again lol
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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby CynicalGooner » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:10 pm

I don't like the Xhaka, Ramsey, Torreira midfield. Especially against non-top 6 teams. Rather see Mkhitaryan in there
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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby Gooner_ESR10 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:11 pm

why the hell is ramsey still playing if were done with him? Hardly a punishment is it.
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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby Yago » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:41 pm

We're not done with him. The only reliable information (Ornstein) we received is that the offer that was on the table was pulled. It's not the end of negotiations, and iirc there were reports we'd reconsider if he would agree to a considerably lower salary (180k I think).

And the biggest point is that Emery has always said he doesn't handle contracts, so the 2 are strictly separated issues. He's playing him because he sees this as his best way of getting points and doesn't care what the contract issues are.
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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby DiamondGooner » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:47 pm

Gooner_LK6 wrote:why the hell is ramsey still playing if were done with him? Hardly a punishment is it.


If we are selling him in January have to advertise his talents.
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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby Gooner_ESR10 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:56 pm

Bottom line is he wants Ozil money and thats not happening. We need to show a stronger backbone and invest in players who actually want to be here like Iwobi or Mkhitaryan. Just feels like the Sanchez situation all over again.
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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby Yago » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:59 pm

Gooner_LK6 wrote:Bottom line is he wants Ozil money and thats not happening. We need to show a stronger backbone and invest in players who actually want to be here like Iwobi or Mkhitaryan. Just feels like the Sanchez situation all over again.


Ozil money is 350k, not 250. Still a big difference. We overpayed then, and I'm kind of happy to see we're not gonna do it again, although I can guarantee this will lead to problems with more than just Ramsey.
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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby Jedi » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:59 pm

This is gonna be a tough game
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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby Yago » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:01 pm

lol good start mustafi
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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby Zenith » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:01 pm

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Re: 29/09/18 | Arsenal vs Watford | Premier League

Postby Zenith » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:06 pm

Blatant foul but not penalty given.

Lacazette basically gets punished for trying to stay on his legs.

With these type of instances referees almost consistently soil the bed.

It's exactly this type of officiating that encourages diving.
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