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Re: Arsenal V Reading | Premier League 30/03/2013

Postby Fran Solo » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:09 am

All the goals were first time shots. I like to see our players do that more often, especially Gervinho. He almost always tries to control the ball, even in front of the goal line.
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Re: Arsenal V Reading | Premier League 30/03/2013

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:09 am

Massa wrote:Cazorla, easily. Scored a beautiful goal and managed to set up a chance that even Gervinho couldn't miss which takes some doing.


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To each their own but Gervinho was easily the most dangerous player on the day IMHO
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Re: Arsenal V Reading | Premier League 30/03/2013

Postby DiamondGooner » Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:45 am

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Angelito wrote:@ Starman Yes, good for us all around.

Well, for 15 minutes, Podolksi looked like he was playing CAM than as a striker, so yes, it's concerning. But I think he deserves a chance to start there. He did look so out of it though.

As for Giroud, I have no agendas against him, and I hope to God--he goes into a scoring spree because that could only help us. Unlike quite a few, I actually support players that play for Arsenal FC as part of Arsenal FC as opposed to their individualities.


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You may laugh but I'm actually with him on that. I never vocally criticise the players who represent this club. They may be several different parts of differing qualities but together they are one Arsenal.


Just to address this because in concept I fully agree however there is a thin line which we as Gunners fans know all to well at the moment because it's a current issue.

Do you show support to any player in an Arsenal shirt out of principle or do you only support the players who are good enough to take the club forward and succeed?

I like to think I do a bit of both but I certainly don't exclude the latter, just because our Management and owners are force fking us mediocrity, accepting that while our fans pay the highest ticket prices in the world (practically) will get us nowhere.

Sometimes I have to take the principles of the what this club stands for over supporting any old player who they've decided to sign, I was supporting the club before they were here and will be here long after, I know what this clubs been built on even if they don't seem to have a friggin clue, why should we drop our standards by accepting players who can't do the job?
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Re: Arsenal V Reading | Premier League 30/03/2013

Postby elovic » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:57 am

DiamondGooner wrote:
Royal Gooner wrote:
TheArsenalPost wrote:
Angelito wrote:@ Starman Yes, good for us all around.

Well, for 15 minutes, Podolksi looked like he was playing CAM than as a striker, so yes, it's concerning. But I think he deserves a chance to start there. He did look so out of it though.

As for Giroud, I have no agendas against him, and I hope to God--he goes into a scoring spree because that could only help us. Unlike quite a few, I actually support players that play for Arsenal FC as part of Arsenal FC as opposed to their individualities.


:rofll:


You may laugh but I'm actually with him on that. I never vocally criticise the players who represent this club. They may be several different parts of differing qualities but together they are one Arsenal.


Just to address this because in concept I fully agree however there is a thin line which we as Gunners fans know all to well at the moment because it's a current issue.

Do you show support to any player in an Arsenal shirt out of principle or do you only support the players who are good enough to take the club forward and succeed?

I like to think I do a bit of both but I certainly don't exclude the latter, just because our Management and owners are force fking us mediocrity, accepting that while our fans pay the highest ticket prices in the world (practically) will get us nowhere.

Sometimes I have to take the principles of the what this club stands for over supporting any old player who they've decided to sign, I was supporting the club before they were here and will be here long after, I know what this clubs been built on even if they don't seem to have a friggin clue, why should we drop our standards by accepting players who can't do the job?


Great post. Every fan always has the club's interest in mind- and that's continuous success. Players who don't bring to the table and preform to the club's standards don't deserve cheering let alone a role in the starting line up. Players with high potential or promising yet average displays are a whole other story. But when a player in the mold of Gervinho comes a long, a player so frustrating in his decision making and so poor in his basic technique, a player that could have earned us so many points but spoiled the lot- it becomes very hard being sympathetic towards him.

To be honest, Gerv's game on Saturday still hasn't convinced me he's quality. Still too much ball-dwelling and tumbling over the ball. If it wasn't for Santi, no one would be even talking about him today.
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Re: Arsenal V Reading | Premier League 30/03/2013

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:58 pm

An eye for goal

Even as a versatile attacker capable of playing in various positions, Gervinho wouldn’t have expected to play so many roles at Arsenal this season.

He was accustomed to a wide role in his debut campaign at Arsenal in 2011/12, but the Ivorian found himself used up front at the start of this season, providing pace and directness behind the defence while Olivier Giroud was eased into English football.

Goals against Southampton, Montpellier, Chelsea and Olympiakos showed his goalscoring capabilities - and it was particularly notable that so many of the strikes were ‘classic’ centre-forward goals; poacher’s efforts from crosses and cut-backs.

Gervinho hadn’t played up front before this season. “I had only played a few times in that position,” he said back in October. “At Lille, I always played on the wings but we used to move a lot with Moussa Sow and Eden Hazard, so I found myself in the centre sometimes… but that’s it. It’s a new position for me, and I’m starting to adapt to it.”

However, as Giroud has adjusted to Premier League football, and with Theo Walcott given more opportunities in his preferred central role, Gervinho has reverted to a wider position. He hasn’t started as a central striker in 2013, but has been fielded on both flanks.

Interestingly, Gervinho indicates his period spent playing up front has improved his all-round game, particularly his movement. “In the middle, it gives you a lot of options. You can make a run on the right, on the left, or deep in the centre,” he says.

That has improved Gervinho’s contribution when deployed on the flank. Previously, his movement was obvious - he’d stay wide and beat an opponent before charging towards the touchline and attempting a cut-back for an opponent.

Against Reading on Saturday afternoon, there was more variety and unpredictability in his game - in addition to taking on opponents in wide areas, he also popped up in central positions to become a second centre forward.

That was summed up by the positions of Gervinho’s shots (see graphic below, left). The attempts themselves were sometimes wayward, but it’s interesting how they all occurred in a central position, despite his starting role on the right.

Having been deployed as a centre forward, Gervinho now gets himself into goalscoring positions more naturally. His opener against Reading was a tap-in, but showed a striker’s instinct to anticipate where Santi Cazorla’s attempt would go, and to break past the Reading offside line.

“He finishes well now,” said Arsène Wenger on Saturday. “Much better than when he arrived and he will get better and better. But his finishing is linked with his psychology. To be honest he is not clinical, however when he is completely relaxed he is quite good. He rushes his finishing because when he arrives in front of the goal he wants to get rid of [the ball].”

That eagerness to ‘get rid of the ball’ wasn’t apparent when Gervinho teed up Giroud for Arsenal’s fourth goal against Reading. That showed the maturity in his game - rather than desperately trying to beat the Reading defence on the break, he was happy to slow the play and wait for support, before passing the ball perfectly onto Giroud’s left foot.

It was his second assist of the afternoon, having passed to Cazorla for the midfielder’s beautifully accurate curled shot early in the second half, and overall Gervinho’s distribution was both positive and reliable (see graphic above, right).

Strangely, the thing Gervinho has become famed for - his ability to go past a defender - wasn’t particularly obvious against Reading. From four attempted ‘take-ons’, he was dispossessed three times. But he compensated for that by becoming an aerial threat in the penalty box, winning both his challenges with opposition centre backs.

A key feature of Arsenal’s play in 2012/13 is their tendency to share goals across various attackers. Whereas last year Wenger’s side boasted the Premier League’s top goalscorer, now none of the top 10 Premier League goalscorers play for the club.

However, Arsenal are the only side to have three separate players - Cazorla, Walcott and Giroud - in double figures, with Lukas Podolski not far behind.

It’s crucial that as many players as possible chip in, and Gervinho’s experience of playing as a centre forward might result in some crucial goals in the run-in, even if he’s starting on the flank.


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Re: Arsenal V Reading | Premier League 30/03/2013

Postby billie86 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:12 pm

Fran Solo wrote:All the goals were first time shots. I like to see our players do that more often, especially Gervinho. He almost always tries to control the ball, even in front of the goal line.



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Re: Arsenal V Reading | Premier League 30/03/2013

Postby ThereIsBearCüm » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:17 am

Where's the ratings thread?
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Re: Arsenal V Reading | Premier League 30/03/2013

Postby Zenith » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:54 am

ThereIsBearCum wrote:Where's the ratings thread?


It got lost during the crash a few days ago.

I'll ask Rev to create a new one for the Reading game.
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Re: Arsenal V Reading | Premier League 30/03/2013

Postby Reverend Gooner » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:06 pm

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Re: Arsenal V Reading | Premier League 30/03/2013

Postby She_Gunner_Wales » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:03 am

Not been on here since this, what a great trip to London it was! 3 scored in front of me in block 5, home support were brilliant right through the stadium, (pics on fb for anyone who added me there & interested in seeing), Club should have put the Rocky image on the screens for longer though, good night in the Eaglet after the game. job done, 3pts, happy goonergirlie! :P

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