by FrustratedGooner » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:47 pm
by ThereIsBearCüm » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:51 pm
Sims wrote:ThereIsBearCum wrote:Sims wrote:Clearly.
H2H results mean f**k all, just cause we beat United every so often doesn't mean we're better than them.
Di Matteo's success was nothing more than a fluke, I would hate to see the Arsenal fluke our way to glory by putting 10 men behind the ball.
Guardiola is the second best manager in the World, you saw what he did to Messi, and Barca. Transformed them completely, I would rather wait for him than get Di Matteo in for the next two years.
So you want Di Matteo in for 6 months before saying "f**k off, here's Pep now, tara"? Clearly not educated in footballing stability and the modern game. I'm speaking to my Toon mate, proper football enthusiast and moreso a neutral than anything else, he said anyone who wants Di Matteo in is a fool, so, where does that leave you?
No, United are better than us because they beat us more than we beat them. Di Matteo is better than Wenger because he beats him more than vice versa... in fact, Wenger has never beaten Di Matteo. It's not like the record's close.
So you say his success at West Brom and MK Dons were flukes too? Or have you forgotten that football has been around longer than 2 years?
Second best manager in the world? Now I know you're joking.
Depends how he does. If he's doing well, why sack him?
LOL! Your mate down the pub thinks Di Matteo's a shit manager! You can't make this stuff up! Are you serious? Surely no one can be this stupid.
So if Wenger beats Di Matteo more, yet finishes below his team, Wenger would still be the better manager? This logic makes no sense. You can't doubt Pep's abilities, his record speaks for itself; why do you think he had the sabbatical? He works ridiculously hard and is pretty much the perfect manager. He didn't say he's a shit manager did he, he wouldn't fit Arsenal and he's clearly not good enough for us either. I'm guessing you're part of the older generation, as clearly you can't get to grips with modern football, pretty much like Wenger LOL.
by Arsenal Tone » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:57 pm
by Angelito » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:57 pm
by Zenith » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:01 pm
gooney wrote:Zenith wrote:gooney wrote:Our time will come lads, just accept this season will be sh1t and we will have changes. I dont want another trophy less season and top 4. I rather have us finishing 12th and the club taking serious look at itself
Good luck attracting quality players when you can't offer then CL football.
Im not one bit worried about attracting quality players right now. What I want is change in mentality at the club, change of values and direction. Rest will fall into place because we are world clas football. Dortmund is the perfect example. Was a force, then became sh1t and now force again. You have to do the basics well then worry about other things.
Perfect example with the cancer at the club is ox show on arsenal.com. You have a teenager that the club spend 12 millions on, instead of focusing on football and keeping quite. The club is making him believe he has made it and already trying to make as much of him and he's used as a commercial tool. Why the hell does a teenager have a show on arsenal.com? Some may say its a minor issue, but its an issue of many at the club which explains why the standards have been dropping year after year
by Sims » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:02 pm
ThereIsBearCum wrote:Sims wrote:ThereIsBearCum wrote:Sims wrote:Clearly.
H2H results mean f**k all, just cause we beat United every so often doesn't mean we're better than them.
Di Matteo's success was nothing more than a fluke, I would hate to see the Arsenal fluke our way to glory by putting 10 men behind the ball.
Guardiola is the second best manager in the World, you saw what he did to Messi, and Barca. Transformed them completely, I would rather wait for him than get Di Matteo in for the next two years.
So you want Di Matteo in for 6 months before saying "f**k off, here's Pep now, tara"? Clearly not educated in footballing stability and the modern game. I'm speaking to my Toon mate, proper football enthusiast and moreso a neutral than anything else, he said anyone who wants Di Matteo in is a fool, so, where does that leave you?
No, United are better than us because they beat us more than we beat them. Di Matteo is better than Wenger because he beats him more than vice versa... in fact, Wenger has never beaten Di Matteo. It's not like the record's close.
So you say his success at West Brom and MK Dons were flukes too? Or have you forgotten that football has been around longer than 2 years?
Second best manager in the world? Now I know you're joking.
Depends how he does. If he's doing well, why sack him?
LOL! Your mate down the pub thinks Di Matteo's a shit manager! You can't make this stuff up! Are you serious? Surely no one can be this stupid.
So if Wenger beats Di Matteo more, yet finishes below his team, Wenger would still be the better manager? This logic makes no sense. You can't doubt Pep's abilities, his record speaks for itself; why do you think he had the sabbatical? He works ridiculously hard and is pretty much the perfect manager. He didn't say he's a shit manager did he, he wouldn't fit Arsenal and he's clearly not good enough for us either. I'm guessing you're part of the older generation, as clearly you can't get to grips with modern football, pretty much like Wenger LOL.
What season did Di Matteo finish behind Wenger? It's never happened.
Guardiola won with a team that was virtually identical to the one that Rijkaard had won with. He's good, but to say he's the second best in the world is laughable when he's only managed a team filled with some of the best players to ever play football, and the same team has had success prior to and since his coaching spell.
Di Matteo certainly is good enough for us because he's better than what we've currently got. If we can do better, great, if not, he's still an improvement.
Lol, swing and a miss buddy, but good try. I like how you say I'm old fashioned yet you're the one wanting stability for stability's sake and wanting Wenger to stay.
Plymouth Gooner wrote:di matteo > guardiola imo
by TheArsenalPost » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:04 pm
by mel4 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:13 pm
by elkanofan » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:17 pm
mel4 wrote:did the black scarf stage there protest?
by Royal Gooner » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:22 pm
TheArsenalPost wrote:This may not be a very well received comment but here goes.
I would say that personally that I wont attend games until I see REAL change. The board need to take notice and the only way they will is when the money stops flowing in. The empty seats around the Emirates will show more than a few fans being annoyed on a forum/Facebook/606. I love this club, just not the direction it is going in.
by TheArsenalPost » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:26 pm
Royal Gooner wrote:TheArsenalPost wrote:This may not be a very well received comment but here goes.
I would say that personally that I wont attend games until I see REAL change. The board need to take notice and the only way they will is when the money stops flowing in. The empty seats around the Emirates will show more than a few fans being annoyed on a forum/Facebook/606. I love this club, just not the direction it is going in.
The problem with that is that if you don't go, there will be several around to take your place from plastics and tourists. There does need to be a large movement to do it but I do believe that these recent protests do have something to do with the drop in form, look at what happened with blackburn last season (OK we won't get relegated) but the straight out protests caused more trouble then they're worth. Well thought out ones work but not ill-thought out ones that just straight out have a go at the club.
by mel4 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:27 pm
elkanofan wrote:mel4 wrote:did the black scarf stage there protest?
I'll upload the pictures from the protest sometime tonight.
by TheArsenalPost » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:29 pm
by elkanofan » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:30 pm
Royal Gooner wrote:TheArsenalPost wrote:This may not be a very well received comment but here goes.
I would say that personally that I wont attend games until I see REAL change. The board need to take notice and the only way they will is when the money stops flowing in. The empty seats around the Emirates will show more than a few fans being annoyed on a forum/Facebook/606. I love this club, just not the direction it is going in.
The problem with that is that if you don't go, there will be several around to take your place from plastics and tourists
by TheArsenalPost » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:33 pm