Just listened to wenger's post match interview where he 'gave credit' to his players, moaned about not getting a penalty and described the defeat as unlucky!
:banghead:
by Arsenal Tone » Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:34 pm
by Arsenal~Fanatic » Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:36 pm
Plymouth Gooner wrote:Just listened to wenger's post match interview where he 'gave credit' to his players, moaned about not getting a penalty and described the defeat as unlucky!
:banghead:
by starmandb » Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:49 pm
GunnGunn wrote:ThereIsBearCum wrote:Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:I hope and pray we win today cos the dressing room would be shot if we crash out of 2 competitions within a week's time.
enter the starman:
in 03/04 we went out of the FA Cup and the Champions league within a week
I don't think you need reminding how we did in the league that season
So we are suddenly going to go 49 unbeaten are we?
If we go out today, we may as well forfeit the rest of the season and start preparing for next season without Van Persie.
This time, when our capitulation strikes, we will not be sitting 3rd, a few points off second, and clear of 5th, we will be sitting 4th, level on points with Chelsea and 6 points between us and 8th...
by GunnGunn » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:01 pm
by Reverend Gooner » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:08 pm
by Bristol_Gunner » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:32 pm
GunnGunn wrote:Wenger is at fault, he has always been at fault.
A better manager would've gotten more out if these players if a better tactical approach was implemented.
He abandoned his own policies and took up those of other clubs we can't match.
Look at Real Madrid, thats what happens when you mix flair, muscle and a master tactician, thats what we used to have.
How AW has lost it so much ill never know.
by starmandb » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:42 pm
TheLittleMozart wrote:Plymouth Gooner wrote:TheLittleMozart wrote:Shez still manages to get beat from silly angles
Fabianski was in goal!
I didn't say 'just the sunderland game'.....I said 'Ive noticed these things RECENTLY'.
Meaning our past 6 games or so, for which Shez has been in goal for them all barr on. Keep up fella.
by Arsenal Tone » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:32 am
Bristol_Gunner wrote:GunnGunn wrote:Wenger is at fault, he has always been at fault.
A better manager would've gotten more out if these players if a better tactical approach was implemented.
He abandoned his own policies and took up those of other clubs we can't match.
Look at Real Madrid, thats what happens when you mix flair, muscle and a master tactician, thats what we used to have.
How AW has lost it so much ill never know.
Yeah I have to say I would love to see Wenger giving out team talks. They must be the worst team talks because he never seems to motivate the team.
by Inchpräctice » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:58 am
Bristol_Gunner wrote:GunnGunn wrote:Wenger is at fault, he has always been at fault.
A better manager would've gotten more out if these players if a better tactical approach was implemented.
He abandoned his own policies and took up those of other clubs we can't match.
Look at Real Madrid, thats what happens when you mix flair, muscle and a master tactician, thats what we used to have.
How AW has lost it so much ill never know.
Yeah I have to say I would love to see Wenger giving out team talks. They must be the worst team talks because he never seems to motivate the team.
by GunnGunn » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:08 am
by Inchpräctice » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:28 am
GunnGunn wrote:Squillaci was worse than Djourou and thats saying something because he was dire.
And bollocks about Fabregas and Wilshere, you make it sound as if we used to break down teams for fun when they parked the bus, we have struggled against park the bus itus for the last 5 years.
Even when Fabregas was in peak form we struggled, and he struggled to break teams like Sunderland down.
We wern't denied two penalties either, O'Shea got the ball before he took Van Persie down and he was pulled down in the box, yes, they do get given but neither were stonewallers by any stretch.
by Zedie » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:04 pm
Inchpractice wrote:Bristol_Gunner wrote:GunnGunn wrote:Wenger is at fault, he has always been at fault.
A better manager would've gotten more out if these players if a better tactical approach was implemented.
He abandoned his own policies and took up those of other clubs we can't match.
Look at Real Madrid, thats what happens when you mix flair, muscle and a master tactician, thats what we used to have.
How AW has lost it so much ill never know.
Yeah I have to say I would love to see Wenger giving out team talks. They must be the worst team talks because he never seems to motivate the team.
Eh?
There was no lack of motivation on the pitch, the players gave everything, especially Arteta.
When you consider that they'd just been spanked in Italy a few days earlier they put in a very respectable shift. I was expecting them to look far more tired than they did.
We didn't lose that game through lack of effort, we lost it for the same reason we lost in Milan and that was because we only ever passed sideways. Without Cesc and Jack we have no through ball, no penetration, and in losing Na$ri we've lost another player who was prepared to run at defenders and risk dribbling.
We currently have Theo, Ox and Gervinho who are supposed to do that but they failed due to Sunderland's excellent defending.
Every time any of those players got the ball they instantly had 3 men on them. Sunderland set themselves up to pretty much park the bus and catch us on the counter which as we all know works a treat against us. It also helps if you are denied two penalties and you put the ball in your own net.
We're not lacking in effort, we're lacking in creativity up front and organisation at the back. We're also overstocked in the Djourou department to the tune of one.
by Arsenal~Fanatic » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:13 pm
Zedie wrote:Inchpractice wrote:Bristol_Gunner wrote:GunnGunn wrote:Wenger is at fault, he has always been at fault.
A better manager would've gotten more out if these players if a better tactical approach was implemented.
He abandoned his own policies and took up those of other clubs we can't match.
Look at Real Madrid, thats what happens when you mix flair, muscle and a master tactician, thats what we used to have.
How AW has lost it so much ill never know.
Yeah I have to say I would love to see Wenger giving out team talks. They must be the worst team talks because he never seems to motivate the team.
Eh?
There was no lack of motivation on the pitch, the players gave everything, especially Arteta.
When you consider that they'd just been spanked in Italy a few days earlier they put in a very respectable shift. I was expecting them to look far more tired than they did.
We didn't lose that game through lack of effort, we lost it for the same reason we lost in Milan and that was because we only ever passed sideways. Without Cesc and Jack we have no through ball, no penetration, and in losing Na$ri we've lost another player who was prepared to run at defenders and risk dribbling.
We currently have Theo, Ox and Gervinho who are supposed to do that but they failed due to Sunderland's excellent defending.
Every time any of those players got the ball they instantly had 3 men on them. Sunderland set themselves up to pretty much park the bus and catch us on the counter which as we all know works a treat against us. It also helps if you are denied two penalties and you put the ball in your own net.
We're not lacking in effort, we're lacking in creativity up front and organisation at the back. We're also overstocked in the Djourou department to the tune of one.
On the money. Our problem basically stems from the fact that we havent got an AM that can play an early ball or thread through a proper pass. Been saying this all season and if i die tomorrow, i want it inscribed on my tomb stone.
If this isnt proof at how much we miss Cesc, i dont know what is.
The managements inability to replace our star players when theyve been sold for mega bucks has put us in this position and its only going to get worse if we drop out of 4th.
by Zedie » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:19 pm
GunnGunn wrote:Squillaci was worse than Djourou and thats saying something because he was dire.
And bollocks about Fabregas and Wilshere, you make it sound as if we used to break down teams for fun when they parked the bus, we have struggled against park the bus itus for the last 5 years.
Even when Fabregas was in peak form we struggled, and he struggled to break teams like Sunderland down.
We wern't denied two penalties either, O'Shea got the ball before he took Van Persie down and he was pulled down in the box, yes, they do get given but neither were stonewallers by any stretch.
by CynicalGooner » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:20 pm