Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby jacobharris » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:17 pm

If Djourou is as bad as he was yesterday, I would much rather Yennaris or Coquelin at right back.
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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby Trina » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:35 pm

She_Gunner_Wales wrote:
Futuo wrote:
Not sure how basically the same team do so well against City and then so crap last night :-(


because last night, realisticly there wasnt anything to play for. :dontknow:



THere was though for a lot of them, a place in the first team.
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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby StLGooner » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:38 pm

Massa wrote:
ChVint22 wrote:Yeah Verm can play LB of course, but then that will make us have to play Djourou or Squill, or an inexperienced Miquel somewhere, which of course isn't ideal.

Djourou Mertesacker Koscielny Vermaelen


doesn't look too bad. can play the stoke way with 4 centrebacks :thumbsup:



I would say that

Mert Kos Verm

doesn't look "too bad"

But you added Djourou and that automatically makes it look bad to me. :biggrin:
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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby Leody » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:50 pm

Trina wrote:
She_Gunner_Wales wrote:
Futuo wrote:
Not sure how basically the same team do so well against City and then so crap last night :-(


because last night, realisticly there wasnt anything to play for. :dontknow:



THere was though for a lot of them, a place in the first team.


Pride alone should be enough to not put out the shite performance they did.
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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby Reverend Gooner » Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:31 pm

PLAYER RATINGS UP
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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby Futuo » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:10 pm

Trina wrote:
She_Gunner_Wales wrote:
Futuo wrote:
Not sure how basically the same team do so well against City and then so crap last night :-(


because last night, realisticly there wasnt anything to play for. :dontknow:



THere was though for a lot of them, a place in the first team.


Agreed, a chance to show the world what you're about.
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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby VCC » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:37 pm

Rev why not add a rateing for AW each week so we can rate team selection tactics and substitutions ?
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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby Inchpräctice » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:56 pm

Massa wrote:
ChVint22 wrote:Yeah Verm can play LB of course, but then that will make us have to play Djourou or Squill, or an inexperienced Miquel somewhere, which of course isn't ideal.

Djourou Mertesacker Koscielny Vermaelen


doesn't look too bad. can play the stoke way with 4 centrebacks :thumbsup:


Personally I'd prefer this:

Koscielny Mertesacker Vermaelen Miquel


Miquel is ready.
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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby VCC » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:01 am

Inchpractice wrote:
Massa wrote:
ChVint22 wrote:Yeah Verm can play LB of course, but then that will make us have to play Djourou or Squill, or an inexperienced Miquel somewhere, which of course isn't ideal.

Djourou Mertesacker Koscielny Vermaelen


doesn't look too bad. can play the stoke way with 4 centrebacks :thumbsup:


Personally I'd prefer this:

Koscielny Mertesacker Vermaelen Miquel


Miquel is ready.

+1
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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:37 am

VCC wrote:
Inchpractice wrote:
Massa wrote:
ChVint22 wrote:Yeah Verm can play LB of course, but then that will make us have to play Djourou or Squill, or an inexperienced Miquel somewhere, which of course isn't ideal.

Djourou Mertesacker Koscielny Vermaelen


doesn't look too bad. can play the stoke way with 4 centrebacks :thumbsup:


Personally I'd prefer this:

Koscielny Mertesacker Vermaelen Miquel


Miquel is ready.

+1


or maybe this :dontknow: :

Kos Mertesacker Song Vermaelen
Rosicky Arteta
Ramsey


...with Frimpong, Coquelin (maybe even Rosicky) playing alongside Arteta
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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:43 am

Inchpractice wrote:
Zedie wrote:
Inchpractice wrote:
Zedie wrote:im just thankful we dont have to see that in the prem week in week out anymore.


If Shez gets injured we will.

That's why I said we should've bought a GK in the summer.


We got Vito mannone.


I'm aware of that but he's played about 3 Prem games in his life. Very inexperienced and therefore very risky.

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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby VCC » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:45 am

SammyGunner11 wrote:
VCC wrote:
Inchpractice wrote:
Massa wrote:
ChVint22 wrote:Yeah Verm can play LB of course, but then that will make us have to play Djourou or Squill, or an inexperienced Miquel somewhere, which of course isn't ideal.

Djourou Mertesacker Koscielny Vermaelen


doesn't look too bad. can play the stoke way with 4 centrebacks :thumbsup:


Personally I'd prefer this:

Koscielny Mertesacker Vermaelen Miquel


Miquel is ready.

+1


or maybe this :dontknow: :

Kos Mertesacker Song Vermaelen
Rosicky Arteta
Ramsey


...with Frimpong, Coquelin (maybe even Rosicky) playing alongside Arteta

that means playing a CB out of possition and a midfeilder at CB when we have fit cb's not for me.
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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:50 am

Jay22 wrote:Naah, Song is too valuable in the midfield. I would go with the back four Inch posted. Miquel is ready for his baptism, I think.


I agree that Song is key in the midfield, but imo Miquel looks a bit fragile and will probably get turned inside out if he comes up against those tricky wingers. Remember in the Olimpiakos game when he was tracking back, he failed to stay on his feet and gave the Olimpiakos player a shot on goal.

I rather go with an experienced back four especially seeing that this might be our lineup for the next couple of weeks

VCC wrote:that means playing a CB out of possition and a midfeilder at CB when we have fit cb's not for me.


In all honestly, the idea of starting Miquel at LB worries me...
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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby starmandb » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:25 am

friedslice wrote:I love the way some fans are moaning at Wenger for resting players whilst some are moaning at Wenger for risking the first team players who eventually got injured.
Just goes to show people will ALWAYS moan.

What I saw today was the same as I've seen all CL campaign and most of the league season. an off the pace lacklustre performance, lacking in penetration or quality spark and full of defensive errors. Fortunately we've had a bit of quality (namlely RVP, Gervinho etc) to take us over the line in matches, but obviously, with this B team we didn't. But the problems were exactly the same as the first team. We simply can't be training defending and the formation is horribly flawed without having the quality to fluke it.

That has to have been the worst defense EVER fielded in an Arsenal match, EVER....Fabianski, Mannone, Djourou, Squillaci, Santos and then a Yoof team centre back coming on at full back. Worst collective group of defenders I've seen, worse than that United mauling (the original) with cygan & stepanovs.

Oh and Frimpong is so unbelievably overated on here, he was abysmal, utterly terrible.

Mannone and Fabianski are a collective pair of clowns, if I were a conspiracy theorist I'd claim match fixing...

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Re: Olympiacos Vs Arsenal | Champions League 06/12/2011

Postby TRA Dial Square » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:58 am

friedslice wrote:Oh and Frimpong is so unbelievably overated on here, he was abysmal, utterly terrible.


You're joking right?

Frimpong has been a f***ing BEAST for us, he's been IMMENSE!

He had an ABSOLUTE MARE in this game, no doubt about it... But 'unbelievably overrated'?? Do me a favour mate lol.
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