by Arsenal Tone » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:26 pm
by VCC » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:38 pm
by Leody » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:42 pm
Inchpractice wrote:Leody wrote:Cech got beaten with a shot right under him and twice on his near post. A truly worldclass keeper saves at least 2 of those 3.
Whether he's truly world class or not is certainly debatable, but he aint shit.
by Inchpräctice » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:58 pm
Leody wrote:Inchpractice wrote:Leody wrote:Cech got beaten with a shot right under him and twice on his near post. A truly worldclass keeper saves at least 2 of those 3.
Whether he's truly world class or not is certainly debatable, but he aint shit.
By his standard, he had a very poor game against us. You don't have to believe it, but he did. If Sneezers had a game like that in goal for us we'd be giving him 3's and 4's in the player ratings thread.
Sky gave him a 4, and fans a 3.6...
And I didn't mean he is shit, I meant he played like shit against us. And he did.
by Leody » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:58 pm
by Inchpräctice » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:18 am
Leody wrote:I don't know why you're getting so defensive about it mate, Cech was poor. Simples. I'm not taking anything away from our attack, but to say he was good and we just beat him is looking at things through very rose tinted glasses. Our attack was good, but we didn't put 5 by Cech because we were excellent. You're kidding yourself if you think all 5 of those were amazing and unstoppable shots.
Their defense was also poor, and so was ours.
The Walcott shot was drilled, but it was near post and within standing reach about chest high on Cech. He hardly would have had to move a hand to save it. It was a reaction save that many keepers make more times than not. He didn't.
The Santos shot was very poor and should have been saved. There's no excuses for Cech on that one, most EPL keepers save that shot 9 times out of 10.
Van Persie's 3rd, Cech was off balance and guessing that he was going far post and started away before the shot was taken. He flailed and was caught out on it. Had he played that properly and reacted to the shot and not tried to anticipate, he probably makes the save more times than not.
You want to think we played a masterclass match, that's fine by me. I know we didn't. We played very well, better than most other games this season, but nowhere near excellent going forward. Only the first RVP goal was down purely to our ability to break them down, the 5th we caught them on the counter pouring men forward looking to equalize. The Santos goal was schoolboy defending with 11 men on the left side of their defense, the 2rd RVP was a horrible backpass and Terry fell on his face, Walcott's was flatfooted spectating by their defenders after Theo had fallen on his face. Their defending gifted us 3 goals. And that's why commentators are pointing to failures by Chelsea, because they defended horribly.
To be fair, we did break them down other times and didn't finish the chances we created and could have scored 2 or 3 others. But three of the goals we did score were down to very poor defending, not our superior attack.
I'm not being negative, I'm just looking at things objectively. Know thyself and all that...
by Leody » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:20 am
by mg86 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:15 am
by GunnGunn » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:37 am
by ThereIsBearCüm » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:58 am
Gunner Down Under wrote:Was too tired to watch the game last night, luckily there's a free tv replay in Australia and I'm watching that on Wednesday
by Dejan » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:20 am
by Git » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:42 am
Dejan wrote:Rvp's 'hitler imitation' is all over the internets
by Zedie » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:51 am
by Zedie » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:55 am
Git wrote:Dejan wrote:Rvp's 'hitler imitation' is all over the internets
He denied it on twitter.
It's just his dirt brush celebration. He's done it loads of times. Trolls be trolling.
by yosifun » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:00 pm
Git wrote:Dejan wrote:Rvp's 'hitler imitation' is all over the internets
He denied it on twitter.
It's just his dirt brush celebration. He's done it loads of times. Trolls be trolling.