Was there any point in this signing other than financial?

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Postby gooney » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:43 am

he maybe wasnt as good as they thought? i mean do people think south koreans are so dumb that they keep buying shirts of a guy who never plays? They know their football and this whole money making thinking with every asian players is getting tiresome. Park has good pedigree and proven himself in France.
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Re: Was there any point in this signing other than financial

Postby FatSadGooner » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:49 am

gooney wrote: Park has good pedigree and proven himself in France.


25 goals in three years?

If that's eight a year over three full seasons that's not great, or if that's three part seasons then he's not proven.

I'm with the 'let's sell a few shirts' brigade.

Striker is one position where the ability to put the ball in the net is fairly important. And buying anyone as a major signing when they haven't proved they can do that implies other motivation to me.

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Re: Was there any point in this signing other than financial

Postby Est83 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:09 pm

^^^ :lol:

He deserves a chance for his performances on youtube PES! :hiding:




It'd be nice to know what the other players thought of him. I refuse to believe that anyone other than my nan is worse than Chamakh... and that's marginal, she hasn't got height bless her, no chance of getting to those crosses.
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Re: Was there any point in this signing other than financial

Postby gzagee » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:37 pm

friedslice wrote:He was an appeasement signing. Wenger knew that not even he could take a squad into the season with only 2 strikers, particularly when one of them is completely shot. He needed the extra number and this was the cheapest 'name' signing he could get to try and fob us all off - mask him as this talented international captain but knowing he's nowhere near the required standard. fortunately for Arsene RVP has remarkably stayed fit so his bluff hasn't been called yet.


Shame Wenger didn't realise Demba Ba would've been cheaper and a darned sight more effective.
Especially as he'd already been blooded by Spammers..
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Re: Was there any point in this signing other than financial

Postby VCC » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:48 am

Gunners face brand disloyalty in KoreaFebruary 18, 2012
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(Archive) "You've got a lot of nerve coming here," said Lando Calrissian as he greeted Han Solo at Cloud City. For a second he looked set to let fly with his fists before embracing the smuggler in a bear hug. Solo would probably have preferred to have been punched and not frozen in carbonite but you can't have everything.



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Korean Arsenal fans have only seen Park Chu-Young in action on seven occasions
Lando's words sum up the feeling in Seoul after recent reports that Arsenal may be visiting the city in the summer for an exhibition match. After all, Park Chu-young, Korea's star striker and captain, may as well have spent the last six months hanging on Arsene Wenger's office wall for all the time he has spent on the pitch and the prospect of him parading around Seoul this summer like a golden bikini clad Princess Leia has not been well-received.

Leia and friends ended Jabba the Hutt's reign suddenly and violently but Wenger's time at Arsenal looked to be on a slow downward spiral before the start of this season, it's just that this campaign has been worse than anyone expected: out of the title race, soon to be out of the Champions League, almost out of stars and perhaps even out of patience with the man behind the success of recent years. With all that in mind, a few games in East Asia among admiring fans and media would be good for bank balances, the brand and the mood of pretty much everyone involved with the club. Or would it?

The possible tour, reported in the UK media earlier in the month, would include Hong Kong, Beijing and Seoul. A visit to South Korea, which would have made perfect sense at the end of August when Park became a Gunner, is now probably ill-advised.

Of course, it is all about the 26 year-old and how Arsenal signed the country's most important player and gave him a grand total of seven minutes playing time in the Premier League in almost six months - 70 seconds a month. It is not that Korean fans demand an automatic starting spot - the reaction to the August signing was one of pleasant surprise - more that they would like to see him play from time to time and not just in the Carling Cup. His almost complete lack of Premier League action has seen media and fans grow increasingly exasperated. Headlines in Korean newspapers echo the questions of fans in London: "Why the hell did Arsenal sign Park?"

For many, the answer has to be for commercial reasons, a common cry when clubs sign players from the east and understandably so. Asian national pride is strong when it comes to their football players heading to the big leagues and it is a feeling that plays a growing role in the marketing and commercial strategies of the big European clubs. It is why the search for the first world-class Indian or Chinese player is never-ending. It is why Arsenal have partnerships with clubs in Vietnam and Thailand. It is why Celtic started a Japanese homepage after the arrival of Shunsuke Nakamura. It is why, soon after signing Ji Dong-won, Sunderland arrived in Seoul to try and find sponsors. It is why Everton shrugged their shoulders in 2002 when Li Weifeng was tagged on to the Li Tie transfer.

Commercial opportunities are nowhere near as automatic and easy as is often made out - most teams benefit little or at all - but they are there if the right club buys the right player at the right time and he plays a part on the pitch. It is no accident that after signing Park Ji-sung, Manchester United have issued over one million club credit cards in the country, have attracted two major Korean sponsors and have also played in Seoul twice to sell-out crowds and massive media attention.

But for Arsenal, paying six million euros in the frenzied final hours of a transfer window does not suggest any long-term strategy to penetrate the Asian market but rather a rushed reaction to a poor season start. That said, there would have been opportunities. Park Chu-young is a huge star in Korea, perhaps the top striker in Asia in the past year or two (well, he was) and the captain of the most successful national team in the world's biggest continent. Park in London could have been something for fans and media to really sink their teeth into. But you can't do much with seven minutes.

Those fans and journalists would have understood if Park had been loaned out in January, accepting that Arsenal felt that he wasn't good enough or right for the team. But for reasons that are unclear, he has stayed at the club and on the bench, and often not even on that.

Annoyance is especially high because as well as the usual national pride, there are other issues at stake. One is the fact that Park's time is limited. At the end of 2013, he is expected back home to start his two-year military service. He has wasted two-thirds of one of the only two seasons he has left before his European career is most likely over.



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Shunsuke Nakamura's appeal meant that Celtic printed their website in Japanese
More importantly is his role in the national team and this has been the biggest issue in Korean football in the past few weeks as a vital 2014 World Cup qualifier against Kuwait on February 29 approaches. The fact that the team's star striker has not played regular club football since last May is a worry - as it would be in England if Wayne Rooney went overseas in the middle of World Cup qualification and never played. The debate over whether Park should start sounds crazy when you remember that he is the captain and has scored eight goals in the last five games for the Taeguk Warriors.

Arsenal have not actively tried yet to use Park to sell their brand to Koreans, though he naturally features prominently on the club's Korean-language website, but going to Seoul to make money, grow the fanbase and expand the brand, which is the reason for such tours, after not playing Park all season, would be a mistake. If reaction was 'cold' , according to the country's leading newspaper, to the prospect of a visit then confirmation would be almost carbonite-like. And that is before the sight of Park being used by promoters to sell tickets and broadcasting rights, which, if the experience of past trips by European teams to Asia is anything to go by, he most certainly would be.

It does not mean that no tickets would be sold but it would mean that any Arsenal visit would be overshadowed by constant questions about Park Chu-young from a largely hostile media and public. Arsenal would show a lot of nerve going to Korea in the summer, it may be best to give Seoul a miss.
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Was there any point in this signing other than financial?

Postby GunnGunn » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:09 am

Oh dear.

Looks like we have burned bridges...can't say i didn't expect it though.
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Re: Was there any point in this signing other than financial

Postby gzagee » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:37 am

gzagee wrote:As I've mentioned in another thread discussing this issue, I don't think we've made any significant money from him because he's hardly featured.
Anyone who thinks South Koreans will just throw monstrous amounts money away without seeing anything really doesn't know that market.


And I've been saying this wasn't a money-making signing since day dot.

My reckoning? He was another panic buy and, he's just not cutting the Colmans.
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Re: Was there any point in this signing other than financial

Postby GunnGunn » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:38 am

Well, we can add him to an ever growing list of panic buys then.

The only player we signed last summer who wasn't a panic buy, was Gervinho :doh:
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Re: Was there any point in this signing other than financial

Postby Bristol_Gunner » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:43 am

GunnGunn wrote:Well, we can add him to an ever growing list of panic buys then.

The only player we signed last summer who wasn't a panic buy, was Gervinho :doh:


And The Ox. But fair play they really made sure that they cocked up the summer to the max.
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Re: Was there any point in this signing other than financial

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:13 pm

Will he be on the bench today ?
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Re: Was there any point in this signing other than financial

Postby Zedie » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:33 pm

Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:Will he be on the bench today ?


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Re: Was there any point in this signing other than financial

Postby Zedie » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:38 pm

What can you say about that? Where the f**k was Verms going? and what was Gibbs marking?
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Re: Was there any point in this signing other than financial

Postby Massa » Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:56 pm

Zedie wrote:What can you say about that? Where the f**k was Verms going? and what was Gibbs marking?

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Re: Was there any point in this signing other than financial

Postby starmandb » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:04 am

south korea are allowing him to delay his compulsory national service for 10 years.
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Re: Was there any point in this signing other than financial

Postby Inchpräctice » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:07 am

Good, let's hope it will make a difference.

Having said that I have the feeling that Park was a bit of a panic buy in the summer so if we're going to have a big old 'clearing of dead wood' session he could be slung out with Almunia and the rest, especially if we buy Podolski.
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