1991 wrote:if you have leaky pipes turn off the tap. You couldn't tell the Japs with a straight face that a few million Somalis, Afghans, Pakistanis etc is going to make their society demonstrably better yet when it comes to our countries it's a policy we're just supposed to accept without question. Nothing of true value would be lost if we limmited immigration to educated Europeans and countries with similar living standards.
I'm not debating this as it's painfully obvious.
Further more, Britons, and all Europeans for that matter should have the same right to self determination as any other people on the planet, opposing our demographic, cultural and political dispossession in our own countries is logical and morally correct. End of.
Playing devil's advocate, but don't you think India, the indigenous populations of North America and Australia/New Zealand, and the various countries of Africa (cba to name them all) had that same right before the British Empire invaded?
Also limiting immigration to "educated Europeans and countries with similar living standards" is asinine. Some immigrants to America:
India: Subranhmanyan Chandrasekhar (important physicist), Amar Bose (yeah, those Bose audio systems), Satya Nadella (Microsoft CEO)
Russia: Sergey Brin (Google co-founder), Ayn Rand (novelist)
Cuba: Rita M. Rodriguez (international finance)
Taiwan: David Ho (AIDS research), Ang Lee (entertainment), Jerry Yang (Yahoo! co-founder)
Idk much about the UK's immigrants, but there's:
Aarti Jagannath from India, Jung Chang from China, Anish Kapoor from India, Zaha Hadid from Iraq, Mo Farah from Somalia, Al Bangura from Sierra Leone.
Banning people solely because they come from a different background can lead a country to miss out on making "society demonstrably better."