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Re: British Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:07 am

UFGN wrote:
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UFGN wrote:Jesus I cant wait to get these f***ing tory c**** out of power. I'm so sick of their waffling shit


Thursday 2 May 2024 will be your next chance, you had a very real chance last year and blew it now you just have to wait.


I'm genuinely excited about Kier taking on Bullshit Borris

Lame duck PM, frankly. Not 100 per cent certain the Tories will last till 2024. If they do, Kier will tear them a new one when the time comes. People are already sick of the Tories and Corbyn is the only reason theyre in power


Lame duck? Seems to me the election made him anything but that. He broke the back of the attempt to undermine our country's vote to leave the EU. That, despite his ridiculous handling of the lockdowns in the UK, makes him good for the country - and the more he sh*ts on the EU the more he will be liked.
If he was such a lame duck as you claim, then he wouldn't have beeen able to force the Internal Market Bill through the commons.

As for Starmer, the country is not going to to put Blair 2.0 into office. We had enough of the war criminal Blair to make that mistake again.
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Re: British Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:14 am

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Tony Adams wrote:https://twitter.com/Ed_Miliband/status/1305552766019006469?s=19


Who cares what bacon sandwich man thinks? He lost!


Didn't pay any attention to Milliband because I was too busy laughing at him - although I must admit, that clip is even funnier with the sound turned off.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Sims » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:34 am

Think Ed would’ve been a great PM

Problem is when you’ve got all the Tory newspapers going for you, making the country believe you’re an idiot for eating a bacon sandwich, it’s not gonna end well

Though Boris Johnson who’s a professional bumbler and clown who has about 6 kids he doesn’t acknowledge gets away scott free

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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:37 am

Ed Miliband always reminded me of Victor Quartermaine.

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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:42 am

Sims wrote:Think Ed would’ve been a great PM

Problem is when you’ve got all the Tory newspapers going for you, making the country believe you’re an idiot for eating a bacon sandwich, it’s not gonna end well

Though Boris Johnson who’s a professional bumbler and clown who has about 6 kids he doesn’t acknowledge gets away scott free

Funny that


Exactly this. And the press is apparently biased against the tories
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Re: British Politics

Postby Sims » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:48 am

The harsh reality is that Labour need to be centre left at most to get any sort of foothold in the country again until the older generations start kicking the bucket - and I don’t mean to be disrespectful by that statement at all

I wasn’t a massive Corbyn fan but it was borderline delusional to think that a right wing country would swing to the left that far that quickly, it was just a massive waste of time and only solidified tories voters beliefs more - damaging labour’s chances over the long term

Having the young vote is fine, problem is that Labour completely lost the working class and the Tories capitalised on it. The biggest trick they’ve ever done is convincing the Conservatives is the party to elect if you want the working classes best interests at heart
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:54 am

Miliband is a wally. That's why he lost control of the Party. They could see he was un-electable. MInd you, the bloke they chose to replace him was even less so.

They're generally un-electable as a Party. It's why they've only held power for 13 of the last 41 years.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Sims » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:57 am

Phil71 wrote:Miliband is a wally. That's why he lost control of the Party. They could see he was un-electable. MInd you, the bloke they chose to replace him was even less so.

They're generally un-electable as a Party. It's why they've only held power for 13 of the last 41 years.


If Boris Johnson was somehow the leader of the opposition he would be deemed unelectable as well

He’s just never pictured as it in the media. He’s a scruff, he’s incoherent, a poor speaker, he has no retort whenever he’s put on the spot, he’s had howlers in PR (being stuck on a zip line, rugby tackling a 8 year old, head butting an ex german footballer in the nads) and is a guy who doesn’t even acknowledge the kids he has with several women

But he’s not “un-electable”?
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:58 am

Sims wrote:The harsh reality is that Labour need to be centre left at most to get any sort of foothold in the country again until the older generations start kicking the bucket - and I don’t mean to be disrespectful by that statement at all

I wasn’t a massive Corbyn fan but it was borderline delusional to think that a right wing country would swing to the left that far that quickly, it was just a massive waste of time and only solidified tories voters beliefs more - damaging labour’s chances over the long term

Having the young vote is fine, problem is that Labour completely lost the working class and the Tories capitalised on it. The biggest trick they’ve ever done is convincing the Conservatives is the party to elect if you want the working classes best interests at heart


So get rid of the old, the wealthy and the working classes and Labour have a chance?

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Re: British Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:58 am

Sims wrote:The harsh reality is that Labour need to be centre left at most to get any sort of foothold in the country again until the older generations start kicking the bucket - and I don’t mean to be disrespectful by that statement at all

I wasn’t a massive Corbyn fan but it was borderline delusional to think that a right wing country would swing to the left that far that quickly, it was just a massive waste of time and only solidified tories voters beliefs more - damaging labour’s chances over the long term

Having the young vote is fine, problem is that Labour completely lost the working class and the Tories capitalised on it. The biggest trick they’ve ever done is convincing the Conservatives is the party to elect if you want the working classes best interests at heart


The younger generation becomes the older generation - and in that journey they realise that the Labour Party is not for them. Also, it will take the country a long time to forget the traitorous behaviour of Labour in the Brexit saga.
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Re: British Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:00 am

Sims wrote:
Phil71 wrote:Miliband is a wally. That's why he lost control of the Party. They could see he was un-electable. MInd you, the bloke they chose to replace him was even less so.

They're generally un-electable as a Party. It's why they've only held power for 13 of the last 41 years.


If Boris Johnson was somehow the leader of the opposition he would be deemed unelectable as well

He’s just never pictured as it in the media. He’s a scruff, he’s incoherent, a poor speaker, he has no retort whenever he’s put on the spot, he’s had howlers in PR (being stuck on a zip line, rugby tackling a 8 year old, head butting an ex german footballer in the nads) and is a guy who doesn’t even acknowledge the kids he has with several women

But he’s not “un-electable”?


No, he was elected on Brexit. His stance would have won the day as an opposition to labours position. I don;t think remoaners quite understand how disgusting their behaviour was.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:09 am

Sims wrote:
Phil71 wrote:Miliband is a wally. That's why he lost control of the Party. They could see he was un-electable. MInd you, the bloke they chose to replace him was even less so.

They're generally un-electable as a Party. It's why they've only held power for 13 of the last 41 years.


If Boris Johnson was somehow the leader of the opposition he would be deemed unelectable as well

He’s just never pictured as it in the media. He’s a scruff, he’s incoherent, a poor speaker, he has no retort whenever he’s put on the spot, he’s had howlers in PR (being stuck on a zip line, rugby tackling a 8 year old, head butting an ex german footballer in the nads) and is a guy who doesn’t even acknowledge the kids he has with several women

But he’s not “un-electable”?


Obviously. He was elected.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Dubs4Sam » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:39 am

You either didn't read the brexit agreement or you didn't understand it - pretty damning sound bite from last night.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:49 pm

It should have been obvious to everyone that this would happen.

Why else would the DUP and the Tory brexiteer MPs have suddenly backed a bill that was almost identical from a backstop perspective to May's deal. Boris was even overheard telling a group of NI business people that they have nothing to worry about as there would be no checks between NI and the mainland.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Callum » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:11 pm

England is doomed. Time for Ireland to reunite and Scotland to gain its independence. Wales, meh. :sneaky2:
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