VCC wrote:Phil71 wrote:Did you see the news today?
A representative of the British government in New Zealand apologised to a selected Maori delegation for Captain Cook's crew killing nine Maoris when Endeavour docked at Cape Poverty in 1769.
250 f***ing years ago!
Let it go for fucks sake.
An apology is always a good thing The Endevour for some Maori here in NZ is a symbol of takeover, although the Maori population was a tribal one with great tribal characters and wars (would actually make great movies). The European founders brought power not ever seen in the weapons.fast forward to the 1860's and the Maori wars were happening during this time the first known peaceful protests happened in a place called Parehaka Marea (Marea is Maori for meeting house) Parehaka was subsequently forcibly taken over by the colonial soldiers. Parehaka is historical for the fact it is one of the first known groups of people who continued to peacefully go about trying to change the forced takeover of tribes.
The Maori people have fought in every conflict on behalf of the crown since the treaty of Waitangi (the founding document signed by some tribes) which declared NZ a member of the crown.The Maori battalion is still held in the highest regard.
NZ as a country has fought in
Boer war
WW1
WW2
Malaysia
Korea
Vietnam
Faulklands
Afghanistan
Iraq
Gulf
Somalia
I think the fact that many Maori have fought and died for the crown, that a simple apology is not to much to ask
Kia Kaha
I'm sorry but its fkin meaningless.
Completely and utterly meaningless, if the Gov't actually made a tangible offer like the US Gov did by giving the Native Americans actual land then that's something but how do you clear murdering thousands and taking an entire country with .............. "Sorry"
Its demeaning if anything.
Our world is so fked right now its getting stupid, what bugs me the most is the hypocrisy.
These Gov't and companies don't actually give a crap, these apologies aren't genuine, its just statements given to bolster votes or look good to the press and please the placard wavers.
The Cancel culture think that by amassing all these online petitions and pressuring Gov'ts and companies into these apologies means they're accomplishing something by having them dance to their tune .......... but if they were really sorry then they'd give something power / Gov't office / land something!
Not ....... "I'll take the whole country and all the resources and you can have this "sorry" that I'm going to offer, fair deal?".
Its BS and not worth it.
I want an apology from Rome, Scandinavia, Germany, Normans and the Irish for stepping on these shores in anger or .......... we could all just grow the fk up?