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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:22 pm

UFGN wrote:Now shut the f**k up about "project fear"

This is from the Government. And I see no planning to reduce the risk of these outcomes. Just bravado, bullshit and hot air.

When was the last time we had news of any likely outcomes that would be an improvement on what we already have?


No I don't think we will because Project Fear wasn't about would No Deal be better than Remain because that was and is still open to suggestion of what deals they would actually get.

What we said was Project Fear was that the country would be fked the day after the result, EU would never have us back, companies would flee the UK ........................

Its also project fear even stating all this sh*t is going to happen when Parliament have absolutely no intention of allowing Brexit in the fkin first place.

All propaganda, yes I'm sure if we "crashed out" with no deals or planning OF COURSE there would be issues, we're not fkin stupid, but as of yet we're still all waiting for the sky to drop on our heads as your lot promised.
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:31 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
UFGN wrote:Now shut the f**k up about "project fear"

This is from the Government. And I see no planning to reduce the risk of these outcomes. Just bravado, bullshit and hot air.

When was the last time we had news of any likely outcomes that would be an improvement on what we already have?


No I don't think we will because Project Fear wasn't about would No Deal be better than Remain because that was and is still open to suggestion of what deals they would actually get.

What we said was Project Fear was that the country would be fked the day after the result, EU would never have us back, companies would flee the UK ........................

Its also project fear even stating all this sh*t is going to happen when Parliament have absolutely no intention of allowing Brexit in the fkin first place.

All propaganda, yes I'm sure if we "crashed out" with no deals or planning OF COURSE there would be issues, we're not fkin stupid, but as of yet we're still all waiting for the sky to drop on our heads as your lot promised.


If im a lot then so are you m8

Wheres the fkin deal you lot promised?

Why did you cry your eyes out over "project fear" when your hero's government has basically confirmed how serious problems could easily be if we go down the no deal route?

Project Fear never f***ing existed. It was real people voicing real concerns, NONE of which have been addressed by your clown PM

Instead of cheering his childish antics why dont you do what you said you wanted to do..... HOLD HIM TO ACCOUNT. What are his solutions?
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Re: British Politics

Postby Tony Adams » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:33 am

When we leave the EU and there is still food on supermarket shelves and we don't struggle to get hold of medicines it doesn't mean everything is ok!

Just putting that out there because I think that is what we are being set up to see.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:26 am

If the Supreme Court does end up agreeing with the Scottish court's verdict, I think we'd definitely be in resignation territory for Boris.

The conclusion would be that he has been dishonest in his advice to the Queen. Surely no PM could continue in those circumstances.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Rockape » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:54 am

The mess just gets bigger, the country is divided, parliament is divided and whilst you can understand Boris trying to ‘take the bull by the horns’, it looks like another total failure to achieve anything, which just takes us deeper into the mire.

I blame Call me Dave.....he started the whole feckin thing!
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:03 am

Rockape wrote:The mess just gets bigger, the country is divided, parliament is divided and whilst you can understand Boris trying to ‘take the bull by the horns’, it looks like another total failure to achieve anything, which just takes us deeper into the mire.

I blame Call me Dave.....he started the whole feckin thing!


You have to wonder if a formal risk assessment such as the one that has been done with Yellowhammer should have been carried out before any decision to declare a referendum.

Surely a country as advanced as the UK would have done this.

I think there may still be something underlying this whole thing. Maybe the UK state believes the EU is heading for a financial catastrophe, and has decided the risks of an exit now are worth taking.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Emeryates » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:04 am

He probably thought after winning the Scottish Referendum that he could win anything. After all, the moronic Scots actually voted to stay
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:24 am

Emeryates wrote:He probably thought after winning the Scottish Referendum that he could win anything. After all, the moronic Scots actually voted to stay


Your apparent contempt for Great Britain is almost as obvious as Jeremy Corbyn's.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Emeryates » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:34 am

Phil71 wrote:
Emeryates wrote:He probably thought after winning the Scottish Referendum that he could win anything. After all, the moronic Scots actually voted to stay


Your apparent contempt for Great Britain is almost as obvious as Jeremy Corbyn's.

I don't hate Britain, but considering how much the Scots complain every 10 seconds about everything, you'd bloody well expect them to have left.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:53 am

Emeryates wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
Emeryates wrote:He probably thought after winning the Scottish Referendum that he could win anything. After all, the moronic Scots actually voted to stay


Your apparent contempt for Great Britain is almost as obvious as Jeremy Corbyn's.

I don't hate Britain, but considering how much the Scots complain every 10 seconds about everything, you'd bloody well expect them to have left.


It's only the SNP who tirelessly complain.

That's probably one of the reasons they lost the indi ref. People are fed up listening to their endless whining.
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:32 am

Phil71 wrote:
Rockape wrote:The mess just gets bigger, the country is divided, parliament is divided and whilst you can understand Boris trying to ‘take the bull by the horns’, it looks like another total failure to achieve anything, which just takes us deeper into the mire.

I blame Call me Dave.....he started the whole feckin thing!


You have to wonder if a formal risk assessment such as the one that has been done with Yellowhammer should have been carried out before any decision to declare a referendum.

Surely a country as advanced as the UK would have done this.

I think there may still be something underlying this whole thing. Maybe the UK state believes the EU is heading for a financial catastrophe, and has decided the risks of an exit now are worth taking.


But that was the ENTIRE issue to begin with.

People quickly have forgotten the state of politics back in Cameron's era, i.e MP's ignorantly not listening to anything we say, people raising immigration numbers were automatically slandered on TV as just being racist (and that was the audience) simply because the MP's couldn't be bothered to answer the question, all the targets MP's set were broken etc etc.

The reason Yellow Hammer was not done pre vote was just another sample of the unfettered arrogance of the Gov't of that day, they just automatically assumed we would vote as instructed by them, they were so confident they thought it was a forgone conclusion ............... and that's the real story about how Brexit and Trump happened.

Remember the media shock at both of those results.

This was the result of years of MP's and media shutting the public down with accusations of "Racist, sexist .......blah blah", they were using Far Left Activist tactics to side step the public's questions and these results were the black eye the public had been itching to give the respective Gov'ts for years.

Remember the message Trump got in on, "I'll be different, I'll actually do what I promise".

All people will choose to recall was "Immigration, build the wall" etc but that wasn't the reason that masses of centre voters voted how they did, it was about taking back control by having Gov'ts who stick to their promises, not just using it as sound pieces to get elected then don't do any of it.
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:57 am

"Brexit U-turn: More than a third of Remainers now want EU exit in huge turnaround"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... k-politics

"Brexit LIVE: Boris WINS! No deal legal challenge dismissed in Belfast court - huge boost"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... llowhammer
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Re: British Politics

Postby Emeryates » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:06 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:"Brexit U-turn: More than a third of Remainers now want EU exit in huge turnaround"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... k-politics

"Brexit LIVE: Boris WINS! No deal legal challenge dismissed in Belfast court - huge boost"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... llowhammer

Imagine using the Express as a source

P.S: It only says proroguing is not against the GFA
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:17 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
Rockape wrote:The mess just gets bigger, the country is divided, parliament is divided and whilst you can understand Boris trying to ‘take the bull by the horns’, it looks like another total failure to achieve anything, which just takes us deeper into the mire.

I blame Call me Dave.....he started the whole feckin thing!


You have to wonder if a formal risk assessment such as the one that has been done with Yellowhammer should have been carried out before any decision to declare a referendum.

Surely a country as advanced as the UK would have done this.

I think there may still be something underlying this whole thing. Maybe the UK state believes the EU is heading for a financial catastrophe, and has decided the risks of an exit now are worth taking.


But that was the ENTIRE issue to begin with.

People quickly have forgotten the state of politics back in Cameron's era, i.e MP's ignorantly not listening to anything we say, people raising immigration numbers were automatically slandered on TV as just being racist (and that was the audience) simply because the MP's couldn't be bothered to answer the question, all the targets MP's set were broken etc etc.

The reason Yellow Hammer was not done pre vote was just another sample of the unfettered arrogance of the Gov't of that day, they just automatically assumed we would vote as instructed by them, they were so confident they thought it was a forgone conclusion ............... and that's the real story about how Brexit and Trump happened.

Remember the media shock at both of those results.

This was the result of years of MP's and media shutting the public down with accusations of "Racist, sexist .......blah blah", they were using Far Left Activist tactics to side step the public's questions and these results were the black eye the public had been itching to give the respective Gov'ts for years.

Remember the message Trump got in on, "I'll be different, I'll actually do what I promise".

All people will choose to recall was "Immigration, build the wall" etc but that wasn't the reason that masses of centre voters voted how they did, it was about taking back control by having Gov'ts who stick to their promises, not just using it as sound pieces to get elected then don't do any of it.


Yep. Absolutely.

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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:11 pm

Emeryates wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:"Brexit U-turn: More than a third of Remainers now want EU exit in huge turnaround"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... k-politics

"Brexit LIVE: Boris WINS! No deal legal challenge dismissed in Belfast court - huge boost"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... llowhammer

Imagine using the Express as a source

P.S: It only says proroguing is not against the GFA



............. I think you'll find I didn't say anything, just posting some headlines.
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