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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:19 am

DiamondGooner wrote:
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Phil71 wrote:
Emeryates wrote:Boris humiliated again. His fans must be sadists lmao


Hardly humiliated to be fair.

He won by 260 votes. Not bad for someone who doesn't have a majority. He just didn't get the 2/3 majority require under the FTP Act.

Maybe that law needs to be reviewed.

He lost all 6 of the votes he's tried to had. Consistent.

As for the won by 260 votes part, if it were a simple majority that were required, Labour would have voted against, not abstained


............ lost all the votes to a zealous opposition who have the majority.

Losing votes when outnumbered is hardly a Roman triumph for the opposition, its just down to math's.


He had a majority when he became PM. He created the circumstance, hes not a victim of it. Hes being held to his word by MPs who are looking at him and just seeing a pathological liar.

No deal was never part of his message until his rhetoric was proven to be BS

Some of those MPs he booted have voted in support of brexit in various ways, including supporting May's shitty deal.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:30 am

Corbyn and Labour voted against May's deal when it was being proposed by the Conservative government, now it seems they want it back on the table when it's not being proposed by the Conservative government.

It's a perfect example of how the opposition have put Party politics ahead of everything else throughout this whole process.
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:45 am

Phil71 wrote:Corbyn and Labour voted against May's deal when it was being proposed by the Conservative government, now it seems they want it back on the table when it's not being proposed by the Conservative government.

It's a perfect example of how the opposition have put Party politics ahead of everything else throughout this whole process.


Woteva m9

Tories were scared of ukip so allowed the referendum to save themselves

Tory Prime Minister backed remain, lost the referendum, shat the bed and resigned

Tory Leave figures failed to put up their strongest candidate and instead chose May

May sniffed the chance of a large Tory majority, and for party political reasons, decided to have a snap election

Ended up with a weakened position both in Parliament and in negotiations as a result, and needed propping up by anti abortion, anti gay DUP nutcases

Failed to get anything approaching a decent deal

Tories then had a third bite of the cherry at picking a prime minister, who immediately embarked on a no deal wankfest, sacked 21 Tory MPs and suspended Parliament

This whole thing is Tories, Tories, Tories
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:00 am

UFGN wrote:
Phil71 wrote:Corbyn and Labour voted against May's deal when it was being proposed by the Conservative government, now it seems they want it back on the table when it's not being proposed by the Conservative government.

It's a perfect example of how the opposition have put Party politics ahead of everything else throughout this whole process.


Woteva m9

Tories were scared of ukip so allowed the referendum to save themselves

Tory Prime Minister backed remain, lost the referendum, shat the bed and resigned

Tory Leave figures failed to put up their strongest candidate and instead chose May

May sniffed the chance of a large Tory majority, and for party political reasons, decided to have a snap election

Ended up with a weakened position both in Parliament and in negotiations as a result, and needed propping up by anti abortion, anti gay DUP nutcases

Failed to get anything approaching a decent deal

Tories then had a third bite of the cherry at picking a prime minister, who immediately embarked on a no deal wankfest, sacked 21 Tory MPs and suspended Parliament

This whole thing is Tories, Tories, Tories


What has any of this to do with my post?
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:06 am

Phil71 wrote:
UFGN wrote:
Phil71 wrote:Corbyn and Labour voted against May's deal when it was being proposed by the Conservative government, now it seems they want it back on the table when it's not being proposed by the Conservative government.

It's a perfect example of how the opposition have put Party politics ahead of everything else throughout this whole process.


Woteva m9

Tories were scared of ukip so allowed the referendum to save themselves

Tory Prime Minister backed remain, lost the referendum, shat the bed and resigned

Tory Leave figures failed to put up their strongest candidate and instead chose May

May sniffed the chance of a large Tory majority, and for party political reasons, decided to have a snap election

Ended up with a weakened position both in Parliament and in negotiations as a result, and needed propping up by anti abortion, anti gay DUP nutcases

Failed to get anything approaching a decent deal

Tories then had a third bite of the cherry at picking a prime minister, who immediately embarked on a no deal wankfest, sacked 21 Tory MPs and suspended Parliament

This whole thing is Tories, Tories, Tories


What has any of this to do with my post?


I think they have put party politics ahead of the country to a vastly lesser extent than the Tories, who have caused all of this

Labour have simply been baffled and useless which is not the same thing
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:12 am

UFGN wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
UFGN wrote:
Phil71 wrote:Corbyn and Labour voted against May's deal when it was being proposed by the Conservative government, now it seems they want it back on the table when it's not being proposed by the Conservative government.

It's a perfect example of how the opposition have put Party politics ahead of everything else throughout this whole process.


Woteva m9

Tories were scared of ukip so allowed the referendum to save themselves

Tory Prime Minister backed remain, lost the referendum, shat the bed and resigned

Tory Leave figures failed to put up their strongest candidate and instead chose May

May sniffed the chance of a large Tory majority, and for party political reasons, decided to have a snap election

Ended up with a weakened position both in Parliament and in negotiations as a result, and needed propping up by anti abortion, anti gay DUP nutcases

Failed to get anything approaching a decent deal

Tories then had a third bite of the cherry at picking a prime minister, who immediately embarked on a no deal wankfest, sacked 21 Tory MPs and suspended Parliament

This whole thing is Tories, Tories, Tories


What has any of this to do with my post?


I think they have put party politics ahead of the country to a vastly lesser extent than the Tories, who have caused all of this

Labour have simply been baffled and useless which is not the same thing


Useless maybe, but certainly not baffled.

Calculated would be a better term. They haven't been interested in achieving anything other than destabilising the government and getting a General Election.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Emeryates » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:24 am

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1171348817830207488

Poll showing country against BJ the clown breaking the law but that leave supporters should be arrested for wanting the law broken.
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:48 pm

Phil71 wrote:
UFGN wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
UFGN wrote:
Phil71 wrote:Corbyn and Labour voted against May's deal when it was being proposed by the Conservative government, now it seems they want it back on the table when it's not being proposed by the Conservative government.

It's a perfect example of how the opposition have put Party politics ahead of everything else throughout this whole process.


Woteva m9

Tories were scared of ukip so allowed the referendum to save themselves

Tory Prime Minister backed remain, lost the referendum, shat the bed and resigned

Tory Leave figures failed to put up their strongest candidate and instead chose May

May sniffed the chance of a large Tory majority, and for party political reasons, decided to have a snap election

Ended up with a weakened position both in Parliament and in negotiations as a result, and needed propping up by anti abortion, anti gay DUP nutcases

Failed to get anything approaching a decent deal

Tories then had a third bite of the cherry at picking a prime minister, who immediately embarked on a no deal wankfest, sacked 21 Tory MPs and suspended Parliament

This whole thing is Tories, Tories, Tories


What has any of this to do with my post?


I think they have put party politics ahead of the country to a vastly lesser extent than the Tories, who have caused all of this

Labour have simply been baffled and useless which is not the same thing


Useless maybe, but certainly not baffled.

Calculated would be a better term. They haven't been interested in achieving anything other than destabilising the government and getting a General Election.


Labour have been nothing but opportunistic.

They haven't put the country first at all, their policy on this has been a shambles.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Emeryates » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:51 pm

Putting the country first= Whatever DG happens to support

As it happens, they have put the country first by harming their election chances by going against the catastrophe of BREXIT.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Zenith » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:49 pm

With -3.33 for Social Libertarian/Authoritarian identical to LMAO/Brandon, albeit vis-à-vis Economic Left/Right with -5.75 about 1.5 box further Left. Not too far away from DG either.

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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:54 pm

Emeryates wrote:Putting the country first= Whatever DG happens to support

As it happens, they have put the country first by harming their election chances by going against the catastrophe of BREXIT.


Most bollocks post in this thread.

Labour don't even have a stance, they are purely reactionary to what the Con's are doing, they begged for a GE now they don't want one, they said they'd respect Brexit but gave "6 tests" which ensured we weren't really leaving and now they're trying to become a Remain party.

How is that inconsistent and opportunistic positioning doing what's best for the country, buffoon comment of the highest levels.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Emeryates » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:08 pm

There's no real point debating with someone who makes up alternative facts. The reason Labour don't want a General Election is because Johnson can change the date to make No Deal happen
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Re: British Politics

Postby Angelito » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:10 pm

Economic Left/Right: -7.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.67

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Re: British Politics

Postby Emeryates » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:13 pm

Ughh you're all far left
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Re: British Politics

Postby Zenith » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:28 pm

Angelito is to me, what I am to LMAO, what LMAO is to DG. Something I'm more than willing to live with - TYVM.

On a serious note, these political ideology tests are, at best, very gross indicators that should be taken with a colossal grain of salt.

Especially this one: all the answers are either various shades of black and white. There isn't even room for solid grey as there is no neutral/indifferent option. Not to mention the absence of a slider system to add gradation.
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