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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:37 pm

Lindsay Hoyle Tweet

"As Members of Parliament we are clearly in unprecedented times and it will be vital to have an experienced Speaker who can provide the stability and leadership the House of Commons requires in order to remain"

That's about right.
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Re: British Politics

Postby LMAO » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:58 pm

You missed a few words.

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Re: British Politics

Postby Emeryates » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:00 pm

LMAO wrote:You missed a few words.


Wonder if said person should be reported for deliberately misquoting as they do to others.....
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Re: British Politics

Postby LMAO » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:07 pm

Emeryates wrote:
LMAO wrote:You missed a few words.


Wonder if said person should be reported for deliberately misquoting as they do to others.....


Legit didn't even take 10 seconds to go to Hoyle's Twitter and find the tweet in question.
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:05 pm

Emeryates wrote:Wonder if said person should be reported for deliberately misquoting as they do to others.....


Last time I checked Lindsay Hoyle wasn't a Forum member.

LMAO wrote:You missed a few words.


LOL, as if someone would say something that blatant, having a bit of fun.
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:56 pm

Lindsay looks and sounds like the type who'd meet an MP in the house of Commons bar after a debate and glass them for giving him shit
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Re: British Politics

Postby Emeryates » Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:34 pm

Boris humiliated again. His fans must be sadists lmao
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:06 am

This Parliament break will be interesting to see what moves Johnson makes.

Its going to all go off when they return in October though, will Boris ask or accept the extention offered and will Corbyn now with no excuse to meander, accept an election?

Tbf I'm not actually sure why Boris doesn't just call for a referendum considering that's the only hand he can play that can be enforced, if he thinks he can win a GE then he must suspect he could win a referendum for Leave?

If Corbyn won't take a GE and so leaves Boris at the whim of Parliaments majority derailing Brexit at every turn then surely he can get a mandate from a referendum victory? because its either that or he stays Parliaments whipping boy till 2022.
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Re: British Politics

Postby LMAO » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:35 am

Can't decide which country in the Anglosphere is the biggest shitshow atm

Over here, we've got the Cheeto man-child who wanted to meet with the f***ing Taliban at Camp f***ing David on the f***ing eve of 9/11 jfc

Across the pond, y'all have an 0'fer PM and the most successful leader of the opposition in your history, and about a week until Brexit when Parliament resumes or an extension to January to allow for a GE/2nd ref.

Canada has the Lavalin scandal and Trudeau's subsequent fall from grace.

Australia has a revolving door at PM and major environmental issues to work on.

Seems like New Zealand is the only one with its shit together.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Tony Adams » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:19 am

DiamondGooner wrote:Tbf I'm not actually sure why Boris doesn't just call for a referendum considering that's the only hand he can play that can be enforced, if he thinks he can win a GE then he must suspect he could win a referendum for Leave?


All Johnson wants to do is win a general election, keep his party in power and himself as prime minister. He doesn't give a **** about remaining or leaving. He'll jump. On whatever bandwagon he thinks'll win a general election.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:52 am

Emeryates wrote:Boris humiliated again. His fans must be sadists lmao


Hardly humiliated to be fair.

He won by 260 votes. Not bad for someone who doesn't have a majority. He just didn't get the 2/3 majority require under the FTP Act.

Maybe that law needs to be reviewed.
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Re: British Politics

Postby LMAO » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:43 am

Phil71 wrote:
Emeryates wrote:Boris humiliated again. His fans must be sadists lmao


Hardly humiliated to be fair.

He won by 260 votes. Not bad for someone who doesn't have a majority. He just didn't get the 2/3 majority require under the FTP Act.

Maybe that law needs to be reviewed.


Winning would be 2/3 of the votes tbf. BoJo lost.

And it'd only fair that a second referendum be had if the threshold for FTPA gets adjusted downward. No reason Parliament should hold the public to a certain vote and refuse a revote, yet turn around and get to change the terms for one of its measures when the original vote didn't go a certain way. I've been told holding additional votes on the same thing when you lost the first time around is undemocratic after all.
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:16 am

Fixed Parliaments Act was brought in initially to protect the Lib Dems position during the coalition.

However the two thirds majority clause is an excellent piece of legislation. It stops the government of the day from having an unfair advantage by dictating the timing of elections, without the agreement of the opposition. FPTP is fundamentally undemocratic anyway, but at least that one issue has been dealt with.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Emeryates » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:54 am

Phil71 wrote:
Emeryates wrote:Boris humiliated again. His fans must be sadists lmao


Hardly humiliated to be fair.

He won by 260 votes. Not bad for someone who doesn't have a majority. He just didn't get the 2/3 majority require under the FTP Act.

Maybe that law needs to be reviewed.

He lost all 6 of the votes he's tried to had. Consistent.

As for the won by 260 votes part, if it were a simple majority that were required, Labour would have voted against, not abstained
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:09 am

Emeryates wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
Emeryates wrote:Boris humiliated again. His fans must be sadists lmao


Hardly humiliated to be fair.

He won by 260 votes. Not bad for someone who doesn't have a majority. He just didn't get the 2/3 majority require under the FTP Act.

Maybe that law needs to be reviewed.

He lost all 6 of the votes he's tried to had. Consistent.

As for the won by 260 votes part, if it were a simple majority that were required, Labour would have voted against, not abstained


............ lost all the votes to a zealous opposition who have the majority.

Losing votes when outnumbered is hardly a Roman triumph for the opposition, its just down to math's.
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