Re: British Politics
Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 4:02 pm
Phil71 wrote:This sort of deal pleases nobody.
Breaking news
You were lied to and you sucked it up
There is no good solution
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Phil71 wrote:This sort of deal pleases nobody.
UFGN wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:I think the only way they could salvage this would be to go for a Norway deal so they could at least announce "We've left the EU" fulfilled the referendum ......... then from there over 5 years or so propose if the people want to rejoin full membership.
Which would be easily transitional as we would still be aligned rules and customs wise.
Barring us completely from fulfilling the Ref is going to cause long term issues of our constitution and make Leave dig their heels with a chip on their shoulder to a take it all or nothing situation which is exactly what I said would happen.
The only peaceful way back to EU membership would be to take half a foot out then possibly and more important for the nation take a "willing" foot back in.
If Remain try to sideline over half the countries voters just because they didn't like the result its going to get nasty and I can't support that.
Norway is the best thing to do, to avoid No Deal and an easy route back in.
The way its looking I'm not even sure Remain would win a referendum as they've p*ssed off so many voters, if Leave win again and this time get an even more clear mandate with a Leave PM then its No Deal.
The reason we're in this mess is because of this activist culture the Left and Right have been brewing for years where there's no compromise its all or nothing, taking the middle route is actually the smartest thing for Remain to do as its the one most likely to succeed.
Fulfill and reverse > Deny and try to fight over half the population.
So this week you don't want another referendum
You keep on referring to things you've said before
Pretty easy when you've held literally every opinion at one point or other
UFGN wrote:So you support democracy yadayada except when you wanted a re-vote?
And except in the week you openly wanted to remain?
In those periods you didn't support democracy but now you “argue for the nuances of our democracy being upheld”?
OK champ
UFGN wrote:Tbh if you still think a hard border in Ireland will be the EU's problem then, well you just crack on there
Leave have done everything wrong. They demanded the referendum, lied and lied and lied during the campaign, shat their knickers when they won and have basically shrugged in amazement that it wasn't so easy to get a deal after all
What exactly have they done right?
UFGN wrote:Boris f***ing Johnson
Jesus wept
UFGN wrote:Boris f***ing Johnson
Jesus wept
UFGN wrote:Phil71 wrote:This sort of deal pleases nobody.
Breaking news
You were lied to and you sucked it up
There is no good solution
Phil71 wrote:UFGN wrote:Phil71 wrote:This sort of deal pleases nobody.
Breaking news
You were lied to and you sucked it up
There is no good solution
Change the record. It's boring.