Luzh 22 wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Luzh 22 wrote:Power n Glory wrote:@EliteKiller, @Luzh22, @dc16
If you're ok seeing us exit without a deal, what's the problem? As it stands, that's what's going to happen and all the theatrics are just for show. The EU won't grant an extension unless MP's back May's deal, the speaker won't allow another vote on May's deal unless there is a significant change, which hasn't happened.
Would you prefer a deal or no deal?
The options aren't deal or no deal are they. The options are May's deal (worse than our current standing), cancel Article 50 and f**k democracy, or no deal.
So, my answer is, no deal at this point.
May won't have the courage to cancel Article 50. It's speculation and it's what some people are calling for but as it stands that's not an option on the table.
If it was obvious from the start that there was no way to appease all parties and get a satisfactory deal, then this has to be the most obvious outcome. It's just a case of whether we'll actually go through with a no deal brexit.
As for democracy, the last vote should stand with the public. Those that originally voted may have changed their mind or they voted to leave after being told they'd get a favorable deal from the EU (whatever that means). The fact that it's the MPs deciding this is what I find undemocratic.
You can't just have votes willy-nilly. If you did, nothing would ever be achieved. The people wanted out. The choices were leave or remain. There were no caveats on the ballot paper. Leave or remain. The choices couldn't have been simpler.
The people voted leave.
A simple question and simple choices for something that's not that simple. That should be obvious by now. It should have never gone to the public vote this way. Not when there are so many caveats and possible scenarios. It's like asking for a divorce when your married with kids and thinking once that's agreed the rest is easy and you can just walk away. It's not that simple. Who gets the house? How will custody be shared with the kids? Who's paying what? You wouldn't leave that to the lawyers to decide and just be happy when you have the divorce and can walk would you?