by Phil71 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:09 pm
by UFGN » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:16 pm
DiamondGooner wrote:UFGN wrote:May knows her fanbase....
I don't think that's a thing.
Does such a thing even exist?
She's one of the most hated politicians I've seen who's not committed a war crime.
Labour hates her, Con's hate her, Remain hate her, SNP hates her, DUP barely tolerate her and are exasperated.
by Reverend Gooner » Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:41 pm
by DiamondGooner » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:55 pm
Reverend Gooner wrote:I bet the SNP, TIG and Lib Dems regret playing games now as motion was drawn for Monday's votes and speaker voted no with precedent so the chance has gone.
by Reverend Gooner » Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:06 pm
DiamondGooner wrote:Reverend Gooner wrote:I bet the SNP, TIG and Lib Dems regret playing games now as motion was drawn for Monday's votes and speaker voted no with precedent so the chance has gone.
It looks like May and Corbyn are going to come to a deal.
Brexiteer's and Remainer's are in bits.
Quite enjoying that tbf, both sides have caused this fk up.
I don't like the way Remainer's have disrespected democracy and I also think the Brexiteer's have had a full on mare, they've come out of this worse of all to be honest.
I'd actually support Corbyn and May's Soft Brexit / Norway ........... is it a better deal than Remain, probably not unless they get some added attachment, but regardless ......... this middling solution is nothing less than we deserve.
At least then we can retreat, recover and think long and hard about whether we want to rejoin as full member's as we'd still be in complete alignment or if we then decide to go out fully.
Either way no side really deserves to win, England has embarrassed itself, we just need a resolution now.
by Phil71 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:47 am
by Reverend Gooner » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:31 am
by UFGN » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:53 am
Reverend Gooner wrote:The trouble for the lords is that it sounds like the bill may need some ammendments due to some shoddy interactions with current law but if it is ammended even slightly then another vote will have to take place which could well lose (rumour had it an ERG member had to abstain as he went down the wrong corridor). The lords are known remainers so that may be a difficult choice.
https://twitter.com/EmporersNewC/status ... -1218.html
That twitter thread destroys the mantra being touted out by Tory brexiteers that all votes to leave means 'no deal'. Actually the words coming out of their mouths suggested leave meant a 'soft brexit' which is what May and Corbyn look like they will try and achieve.
by DiamondGooner » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:59 am
by UFGN » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:29 am
DiamondGooner wrote:The moment Leave sat on the sidelines and allowed a Remainer to sort out their deal for them then as far as I'm concerned they've lost the argument, its similar to Boris Johnson championing Leave then refusing to run for PM.
So fk them.
At least we're making some forward progress at last, Cooper's bill means No Deal can't be used in negotiations or as an option, May's deal is dead and she finally seems to have accepted it.
Looks like we're heading for Norway type deal cobbled together by May and Corbyn.
An article stated that the reason for this is May has finally accepted No Deal is not an option as she fears it'll break up the Union, Scotland want Remain then despite NI being okay with Leave, we don't have a solution for the Backstop so the easy way out is to stay in the Customs Union.
Looks like the only thing Leave will get out of this is us giving up membership and that's it, which is fitting considering they've contributed sweet FA.
If Brexiteer's are angry they should look to Leave MP's who after the result just sat back and presumed May would just give them everything they want, if they're that stupid I don't want these people in charge of a No Deal Britain.
by UFGN » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:04 pm
by Phil71 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:08 pm
by UFGN » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:17 pm
Phil71 wrote:You don't think the government already has the use of the best legal advice available?
by Phil71 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:32 pm
UFGN wrote:Phil71 wrote:You don't think the government already has the use of the best legal advice available?
Not necessarily. I'm sure they have good lawyers but not necessarily the best
The difference with Starmer is, politics aside he is unquestionably a top lawyer.
by UFGN » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:37 pm
Phil71 wrote:UFGN wrote:Phil71 wrote:You don't think the government already has the use of the best legal advice available?
Not necessarily. I'm sure they have good lawyers but not necessarily the best
The difference with Starmer is, politics aside he is unquestionably a top lawyer.
The current Attorney General, Geoffrey Cox, has a much longer and more various legal career than Keir Starker. Both domestically and internationally.