UFGN wrote:Arsenal Tone wrote:The magic money tree was available when the banks were f***ked though. Why is it real for them but mythical for the nhs?EliteKiller wrote:Arsenal Tone wrote:EliteKiller wrote:Arsenal Tone wrote:The elderly a much bigger problem than immigrants then? Retirement homes in Rwanda anyone?
Not that funny, but at least you now know you were talking shit.
No question the NHS needs more funding, but that has bugger all to do with immigrants or politicians imaginary cuts, and yes as you now concede, it has everything to do with us all living longer and the massive increase in medical and medication treatments now available.
FYI - Rwanda is lovely, there are many places a wealthy UK resident can retire and live like a King, why not try Rwanda?
And DG suggesting illegal immigrants are part of the problem is misleading because they are only a very small part of the problem (almost insignificant) compared to the ageing population?
(Question not statement).
Read what has been written ...... the answers you seek are all there if you just read.
Immigration, legitimate and legal, has always been an intrinsic part for all developing nations ... illegal immigration or unsanctioned economic migration has always been a disaster and rightly is illegal.
Legal immigration no problem indeed it should be encouraged, illegal migration send them back. If unsure then a three month wait in Rwanda seems a small price to pay for the LEGAL chance at a better life in the UK.
The NHS is fecked because the bleeding heart brigade believe in endless money trees and that everything should be free. Deep down we all know that remains just a fantasy, sadly some are just to wrapped up in political claptrap that they just won't accept it.
Anyhow back on topic, is it misleading to suggest illegal immigrants are a big part of why the NHS is struggling? I think it is misleading.
My mum can't get an NHS dental appointment anywhere near her home..... in rural Suffolk
Immigration tho
GPs quitting and not being replaced where I live
Immigration tho
...........but no one said that tho.
See this is the problem, two things get mentioned in the same sentence and you guys run a mile with it creating the "blaming everything on immigrants" strawman.
My original statement is there in black and white, not sure how its been twisted into that I was isolating immigrants as the sole issue.
I also mentioned us having hard times due to price rises including the energy crisis .......... are you two going to frame that as me blaming immigrants for that also?