Zedie wrote:Slavery
Womens rights
The minimum wage
Gay marriage
Employment rights
etc
Please dont sit here and tell me to be subservient to a government just because things have always been the way they have. Thats bullshit. They havent and there are infinite examples of people making meaningful changes in society through standing up. You may be resigned to following whatever a Tory government reckons is in the elites best interests, but id rather not.
All of which are examples of huge injustices. Benefit scroungers scrounging on the state fund being finally taken to task is hardly injustice. This isn't a developing country. Every kid is provided with enough BY the government to ensure they have a good enough start to life to actually change the direction of their life. You want to cry about injustice? Go to an actual third world country where poor people can not change their life because they have no access to education, housing, or even money for food via benefits, where kids are forced to work just to be able to eat hand to mouth.
An excellent example of Theresa Mays desperation in the face of reality of Brexit. The Nissan debacle was caused directly because of Brexit. She threw tax payers money directly at Nissan to stop them from leaving the country temporarily, so that the reality of Brexit wouldnt kick in and people could see that actual jobs are going to be lost with a hard Brexit.
Nissan? What about every other large conglomerate across all other sectors pitches up to 10 Downing Street to demand the same treatment? We cant keep bailing out massive companies with tax payer money, its just not sustainable. So this is what the conservative solution is for our finite tax income pool? Use it to keep foreign companies paid so they can feed their profits back into their own lands?
No thanks.
Big foreign companies with nasty profits that are also keeping an entire town employed. What percentage of Sunderland is working in Nissan? Calculate the numbers and see how f***ing scary the prospect of Nissan leaving is. This is compassionate Conservatism. What you're recommending is exactly what Thatcher would do, let the market take its course. I thought the left hated Thatcher's policies?
OK mate. Thatcher saved the country by selling off the countries assets to her elite mates in the top 1%.
Assets horribly mismanaged by the previous Labour government, who hadn't generated a profit in years, assets that were costing the state money it didn't have, with strikes every second week by government employees. Those assets. Her "elite mates"? She wasn't exactly born to royalty, was she, our great Thatcher.
She also sold off the government housing stock to kick start what we now know as the great British housing crisis. Once you do it, theres no turning back. Corbyn hasnt mentioned trade unions, youre just projecting some fantasy thats rattling around Tory eco chambers right now because you lot cant bare to think of the cluster f**k facing your personal image of the strong and stable party.
Malpass and Murie (1999) point out that subsidies paid by local authorities to cover council house tenants had fallen (in nominal terms) from £2.1
billion in 1980 to £1.2 billion by 1990.
In other words, an absolutely massive success of a strategy by Thatcher, that brought clear savings, and improved the conditions for those living in them.
Trade Unions? Here?
More directly beneficial policies including allowing unions to represent apprentices and making it easier to strike by bringing in online balloting were also adopted.
A secret list of policies requested by unions obtained by this newspaper reveals huge areas of overlap with party's plan for government.
Whole chunks of Labour’s leaked manifesto appear to have been almost copied and pasted from proposals put forward by unions.
Labour promises to nationalise Royal Mail and prisons, protect Sunday trade laws, allow councils to open schools and extend freedom of information laws were all requested by the unions.
Promises to consider allowing online balloting for strike action – making it much easier to gain approval for industrial action – and overturn new Tory rules on unions also feature.
The similarity between the wording of union demands and the policies that Labour is putting forward to the country is stark at times.
The Communication Workers Union [CWU], which represents postal workers, proposed “a Post Bank owned by the Post Office and providing a full range of banking services”.
Labour’s draft manifesto offers “a Post Bank owned by the Post Office and providing a full range of banking service.”
GMB, one of the country’s biggest unions, suggested that Labour should “ensure that all workers enjoy current time-related employment rights from day one”.
So lol.... there
PL started after Thatcher loooool be serious mate. I guess Thatcher is responsible for the internet, WIFI and electric cars too. Starting to think you are on a wind up.
Tax on highly paid footballers before and after Thatcher please?
Tax to the elite fell and income to the coffers rose under Thatcher because she literally sold off billions of pounds worth of national assets. A lot like Theresa May tried to force the NHS into selling off its assets to pay for MRI machines and other essentials. Thats the truth of it, stop pretending like Thatcher turned lead into gold and didnt take a massive shit on anyone that wasnt affluent.
Comprehension issue? I said
GoonerAlexis wrote:So.... tax rate fell, yet intake rose, why? Because companies invested more in the economy, and helped the long term economic plan for the hard working people of this country.
Intake is tax intake. Lower tax= more companies. If more companies * Lower tax > less companies * more tax, tax intake rises, which they did. But point completely missed by you.
Thatcher did that? Well, guess who's the only person in the UK to privatise an NHS hospital. Currently Mayor of Manchester, I doubt he's Tory.
Thatcher helped those with small businesses. She grew the country. If she was so shit, she wouldn't be elected three times.
I know perfectly well what Hamas
The Labour leader said in 2009 the group “should be removed from this list”, according to a report by BBC’s monitoring arm at the time.
The so-called “proscribed list” is made up of groups that the Home Secretary believes are "concerned in terrorism”.
Sinn Fein
to try and play it off like Corbyn is backing them is just sad really.
Proof he did back the IRA. He still refuses to say, "I condemn the IRA", instead hiding behind, "I condemn all killing", a massive difference
Youre a Tory continuing to whine about Corbyn talking to both sides and making statements equal to 'hey, both of you have done terrible things in the past, but lets get down to discussion to stop this bitter war", which you find appalling, but have somehow excused the fact that the Tories have invited an organisation that only last week, were endorsed by an organisation that executed a father in front of his child in NI.
I'm not excusing or supporting Theresa May who's made a massive mistake overall. As for "peace", Corbyn and co did not try for peace. The government tried for peace, Corbyn wanted the UK to unilaterally pull their troops out and give in. That was his solution to the IRA, and to the Falklands
Tony Blair, the most right wing Labour PM in generations jumps into bed with the Republicans, to lie and illegally invade Iraq to kick off the Gulf War. Iraq destroyed, the Republican Guard mostly scatter to join informal shady organisations such as Al Quaida. Later, this splinters off into ISIS.
Long story short, the West has begun a chain events of destruction that have led us to people getting run over and stabbed on Westminster bridge. That youre in favour of a party that not only actually physically sides with domestic terrorist sympathisers, but also continues to sell billions of pounds of weapons to the country is the biggest funder of terrorism in Europe is beyond me. The Tories are literally continuing the cycle of shit that you as a Muslim are having to deal with because of some nut cases who claim your religion and you point fingers at Corbyn for trying to get people around the table to end this cycle by means other than bombs or guns which clearly DO NOT WORK.
Good luck to you.
What absolute bullshit is this. Is this where we pretend Saddam was this nice cuddly guy and the Middle East was all swell prior to Blair? Newsflash, Saddam was just as violent as ISIS to Shias, to Kurds and to every other group that wasn't Sunni. He used chemical bombs, spied on everyone, and ran a violent rogue state. Maybe there weren't WMD's, but that doesn't mean it was poor to remove Saddam. The mistake was not removing Saddam, the mistake was people demanding the army to be withdrawn without the government being fully formed. The mistake was forming a Shia government in Sunni territory, one of the most abysmal mistakes that could be made.
Similar with Assad here. Assad is a f***ing lunatic ready to kill every Sunni in the land, except his loyalists. Removing him would be right, and if he was replaced by a Sunni leader, there would be no ISIS type organisation rising there. Simple tip: Sunni leader->Sunni area, Shia leader-> Shia area.
As for Saudi, that's interesting, because they are funding terrorism in Pakistan, but ISIS are against Saudi as well. My bet is more an Iran/Qatar axis here. ISIS, interestingly, avoids attacking Assad areas. It sells oil to Turkey and also interestingly Iran.
The issue in the Middle East is not and never has been the West. The West makes it worse with their insane idiocies most of the time, yes, but it's a proxy war between Iran and Saudi. Trump has chosen a side, Saudi Arabia. If with his backing, Saudi win, terrorism ends in the Middle East. Funny, but the worst US president has accidentally gone about it the right way.
As for ISIS, the issue is very varied. Most radicalised people are party type Muslims who were Muslim in name only. I have yet to see anyone in the Muslim community who was very pious, prayed 5 times a day, etc, suddenly join ISIS and bomb people. It's always these partygoers who suddenly get radicalised. Many of them are found with alcohol which is banned. The issue here has been horrendous work by the police. Every attacker so far was reported either by the local mosque, their immediate family, or Muslim friends. No action taken. That's what you can blame Theresa May for, not Iraq, which was Labour's decision by the way.