GoonerAlexis wrote:Zedie wrote:Reverend Gooner wrote:I agree with your posts DG. The sense I have been getting today is the same. We had a big discussion at work at lunch and the NHS was mentioned more times than Brexit.
It is not just the political parties that have a lot to learn from this but the press also (and I bet they won't). We saw it with Trump where the coverage was full of attacks on him and calling him everything under the sun and trying to tell people what to think of him and eventually it backfired. Whether what is being said is right or wrong people have had enough of being aggressively force fed viewpoints. We saw it here again with Corbyn and the constant attacks and name calling he got, Corbyn is this, that and the other non stop from many facets of the press and in the end people had enough of it and it had the reverse effect. It is like the term 'loony left', in the 2000s that was quite a useful piece of rhetoric but now while it makes the already converted nod, many independants and undecideds will read that kind of rhetoric and it will backfire on the writer. People are sick of that kind of stuff, whichever side is spewing it and the media needs to learn how to report professionally or lose their credibility altogether, Thank God for the internet and the ability for mass direct communication to help neuter that kind of s***.
Bang on.
Please talk about the facts that matter, what will affect the vast majority of peoples lives, how you will help those that are struggling, not slogans. Im sick of reading sound bites, i want to hear what your plan is ffs.
Then why did people vote for what was nothing more than a series of soundbites, with the fully costed manifesto having a financial blackhole? Students voting for no tuition fees, funded by tax hikes for the rich, when such tax hikes are proven to bring in even less revenue than before. The tax intake in 2010 from the rich and big businesses was less than it is now. That was when taxes on rich people and corporation tax was higher than it is now. But let's ignore all this in favour of some fantasy of free tuition fees, et all. That's all while ignoring that Corbyn supported the IRA, supported Hamas and called Hezbollah "our friends".
All this proved was you can bribe the electorate and they're stupid enough to fall for it.
I'm sorry, but it's a bit rich criticising the labour manifesto when Theresa May published a crock of shit light on figures, facts or common sense.
Like I said earlier, I'm under no illusions that he won't be able to fullfill all his promises, but if he even reverses the trend of hitting the normal people constantly and helping big business that don't f***ing need it, it's a win.
You're seriously telling me that the opposite of what you're proposing ie don't increase taxes on business and high earners is more successful?
Look around. The millions of people are struggling in one way or another.
The worst part is, Tories are reduced to ridiculing labour because most normal Tory voters can't actually point to anything remotely positive that their party is offering.
Cuts to education, the police force, the nhs, social care etc hits literally all parts of society apart from those that live in gated communities who can afford private schools and and healthcare.
Everyone else is feeling it.
The terrorist links line is just lazy posting tbh. You probably don't even know the core reason why those accusations have been levelled do you?
Corbyn has always been anti violence, but has always opted for communication and reasoning to defuse the hatred that has festered between Muslim and new, protestant and Catholic.
That he speaks for both sides in an effort to bring about peace instead of fueling the biggest terror backing nations with British weapons for oil and money is enough to get him labelled a terrorist sympathiser and people actually go along with it.
Two gulf wars, invading Iraq, Afghanistan, bombing Syria has created the terror on our streets and only fuels it on more, why do people actually think continuing this cycle instead of trying to engage and talk people down to get things like the Irish peace agreement will work better?
Face it, Theresa May and the Tories are a hot mess that have not only shot themselves in the balls with the attack on normal British people and u turning on the GE, they now have shown no morals in jumping into bed with an organisation that has close links to the other side of the ira equivalent on the royalist side. That they're forming a government with them is laughable.
That you guys are ignoring this and continuing to try and point fingers at Corbyn is even more joke.
