Sims wrote:gerry adams wouldve sorted this all out
The former Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Manor of Northstead has got his bit in by saying he won't support his friend Comrade Corbyn by allowing his MPs to go to Westminster.
by Royal Gooner » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:47 pm
Sims wrote:gerry adams wouldve sorted this all out
by Zedie » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:50 pm
GoonerAlexis wrote:So we're going to be governed by the Irish, after everyone voted against Labour 2 years ago to prevent us being ruled from Scotland
by Zedie » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:53 pm
Reverend Gooner wrote:I agree with your posts DG. The sense I have been getting today is the same. We had a big discussion at work at lunch and the NHS was mentioned more times than Brexit.
It is not just the political parties that have a lot to learn from this but the press also (and I bet they won't). We saw it with Trump where the coverage was full of attacks on him and calling him everything under the sun and trying to tell people what to think of him and eventually it backfired. Whether what is being said is right or wrong people have had enough of being aggressively force fed viewpoints. We saw it here again with Corbyn and the constant attacks and name calling he got, Corbyn is this, that and the other non stop from many facets of the press and in the end people had enough of it and it had the reverse effect. It is like the term 'loony left', in the 2000s that was quite a useful piece of rhetoric but now while it makes the already converted nod, many independants and undecideds will read that kind of rhetoric and it will backfire on the writer. People are sick of that kind of stuff, whichever side is spewing it and the media needs to learn how to report professionally or lose their credibility altogether, Thank God for the internet and the ability for mass direct communication to help neuter that kind of s***.
by Zedie » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:54 pm
by Va-Va-Voom » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:07 pm
Zedie wrote:Where the f**k is UFGN btw, when did he last post?
UFGN wrote:I'm hugely disappointed with this place and I'm off. I've mentioned the casual trolling several times. Nothing's been done, nothing's going to be done.
A choice has been made imo to keep clowns instead of people who have contributed to the forum for years. I'm not claiming to be a great poster but I'm someone who did care about this place being successful and tried to help make that happen.
I'm very disillusioned with Arsenal as well obviously and after the FA cup final I'll be taking an extended hiatus from the club as well.
All the best to the guys who are real xxx
by Callum » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:34 am
Royal Gooner wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-poll-latest-tory-win-results-corbyn-theresa-may-a7777781.html
Seems even the lefty Independent is saying that May is heading for a landslide. Labour can't argue against the trouncing they're going to get because because they voted for this early election and their own doing for having such a weak leader (Who openly admitted he won't step down if he gets thrashed).
As I have always said; you can't win power in the UK with socialism. And I would now add: especially not with outdated 80s socialism.
by Callum » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:40 am
by Va-Va-Voom » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:48 am
Callum wrote:May was right - vote Labour and we'll have terrorist sympathisers in government. What a farce.
Twice in two years two Tory leaders have put party before country. Cameron was our worst PM ever for barely a year. May's legacy is secured with this, the biggest bottling since we lost the Carling Cup final to Birmingham City. She lost a 20 point lead in 6 weeks.
by Zedie » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:46 am
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Callum wrote:May was right - vote Labour and we'll have terrorist sympathisers in government. What a farce.
Twice in two years two Tory leaders have put party before country. Cameron was our worst PM ever for barely a year. May's legacy is secured with this, the biggest bottling since we lost the Carling Cup final to Birmingham City. She lost a 20 point lead in 6 weeks.
Fantastic stuff.
by Callum » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:56 am
by Zedie » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:53 am
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Zedie wrote:Where the f**k is UFGN btw, when did he last post?
May 26th, he left the forum -UFGN wrote:I'm hugely disappointed with this place and I'm off. I've mentioned the casual trolling several times. Nothing's been done, nothing's going to be done.
A choice has been made imo to keep clowns instead of people who have contributed to the forum for years. I'm not claiming to be a great poster but I'm someone who did care about this place being successful and tried to help make that happen.
I'm very disillusioned with Arsenal as well obviously and after the FA cup final I'll be taking an extended hiatus from the club as well.
All the best to the guys who are real xxx
by Sims » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:57 am
by Zedie » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:14 am
Sims wrote:It's great that after all the time tories were moaning about Corbyn's terrorist links that May has to actually work with paramilitary terrorists in order to stay in government
Phenomenal stuff
by GoonerAlexandre » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:06 am
Zedie wrote:Reverend Gooner wrote:I agree with your posts DG. The sense I have been getting today is the same. We had a big discussion at work at lunch and the NHS was mentioned more times than Brexit.
It is not just the political parties that have a lot to learn from this but the press also (and I bet they won't). We saw it with Trump where the coverage was full of attacks on him and calling him everything under the sun and trying to tell people what to think of him and eventually it backfired. Whether what is being said is right or wrong people have had enough of being aggressively force fed viewpoints. We saw it here again with Corbyn and the constant attacks and name calling he got, Corbyn is this, that and the other non stop from many facets of the press and in the end people had enough of it and it had the reverse effect. It is like the term 'loony left', in the 2000s that was quite a useful piece of rhetoric but now while it makes the already converted nod, many independants and undecideds will read that kind of rhetoric and it will backfire on the writer. People are sick of that kind of stuff, whichever side is spewing it and the media needs to learn how to report professionally or lose their credibility altogether, Thank God for the internet and the ability for mass direct communication to help neuter that kind of s***.
Bang on.
Please talk about the facts that matter, what will affect the vast majority of peoples lives, how you will help those that are struggling, not slogans. Im sick of reading sound bites, i want to hear what your plan is ffs.
by Luzh 22 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:35 pm
GoonerAlexis wrote:Zedie wrote:Reverend Gooner wrote:I agree with your posts DG. The sense I have been getting today is the same. We had a big discussion at work at lunch and the NHS was mentioned more times than Brexit.
It is not just the political parties that have a lot to learn from this but the press also (and I bet they won't). We saw it with Trump where the coverage was full of attacks on him and calling him everything under the sun and trying to tell people what to think of him and eventually it backfired. Whether what is being said is right or wrong people have had enough of being aggressively force fed viewpoints. We saw it here again with Corbyn and the constant attacks and name calling he got, Corbyn is this, that and the other non stop from many facets of the press and in the end people had enough of it and it had the reverse effect. It is like the term 'loony left', in the 2000s that was quite a useful piece of rhetoric but now while it makes the already converted nod, many independants and undecideds will read that kind of rhetoric and it will backfire on the writer. People are sick of that kind of stuff, whichever side is spewing it and the media needs to learn how to report professionally or lose their credibility altogether, Thank God for the internet and the ability for mass direct communication to help neuter that kind of s***.
Bang on.
Please talk about the facts that matter, what will affect the vast majority of peoples lives, how you will help those that are struggling, not slogans. Im sick of reading sound bites, i want to hear what your plan is ffs.
Then why did people vote for what was nothing more than a series of soundbites, with the fully costed manifesto having a financial blackhole? Students voting for no tuition fees, funded by tax hikes for the rich, when such tax hikes are proven to bring in even less revenue than before. The tax intake in 2010 from the rich and big businesses was less than it is now. That was when taxes on rich people and corporation tax was higher than it is now. But let's ignore all this in favour of some fantasy of free tuition fees, et all. That's all while ignoring that Corbyn supported the IRA, supported Hamas and called Hezbollah "our friends".
All this proved was you can bribe the electorate and they're stupid enough to fall for it.