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Re: British Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:07 pm

LMAO wrote:The EU and the UK agree to a deal. Seems like all it took was a 48-hour blockade :lol:

Now to get 28 countries to ratify it.


Lol, sounds like the EU sh*t themselves as the deadline approached.
They are out of all of our laws, courts, immigration and border decisions.
We have free trade with them AND we can do our own free trade deals with others.
Need to see more detail but looks like we gave a short term concession on fishing British waters and agreeing - in principal - to not 'cheat' economically by softening regulations to the extent they made the EU uncompetitive, but even that is not backed up by any power under law.

Boris - who is a total clown 99% of the time - on this occasion is doing a victory lap (and rightly so).
The EU, not so much.

Free from Brussels completely in 1 week with 95% of what we wanted . :1990_dancing.gif:
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Re: British Politics

Postby LMAO » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:19 pm

Phil71 wrote:
LMAO wrote:The EU and the UK agree to a deal. Seems like all it took was a 48-hour blockade :lol:

Now to get 28 countries to ratify it.


You mean the Coronavirus-related border closure by France, condemning lorry drivers from all over Europe to spending Christmas alone in their cabs with no food or sanitation?

Yes that was lifted after heads of state from all over Europe got on the phone to Macron and told him not to be such a silly c***.


So you're telling me France controlled its borders?

Weird, I was certain they were in the EU.
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:31 pm

Phil71 wrote:
LMAO wrote:The EU and the UK agree to a deal. Seems like all it took was a 48-hour blockade :lol:

Now to get 28 countries to ratify it.


You mean the Coronavirus-related border closure by France, condemning lorry drivers from all over Europe to spending Christmas alone in their cabs with no food or sanitation?

Yes that was lifted after heads of state from all over Europe got on the phone to Macron and told him not to be such a silly c***.


Exactly.

What's happened is the French being typical fkin idiots have held this entire EU process to ransom to try and have their way with us yet the rest of Europe, Germany included are fretting about the clock and telling Macron to stop.

This is nothing short of an embarrassement, is this for the good of the EU or France? because France seem to be waging a one man war trying to achieve what they haven't for 1,000 years ........... put the English in their place.

Not going to happen little Frenchies, don't make us have a re-run of Agincourt politically or otherwise.

If there was ever a display needed that the EU is nothing but a vehicle for French and German supremacy then this has been it, the only saving grace is that its 2nd HW Germany want / need this deal done, we are major customers of theirs, we're basically BMW and Mercedes 2nd home ffs.
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:40 pm

What we need now is to see what this deal entails ................

However regardless, UFGN you promised a Leave would screw us over, shelves bare, no import / export, no medication, YOU WERE WRONG.

Really wrong, you underestimated us like some sort of EU shill.

There will be some areas of negotiation and some areas of give and take, it won't be perfect but your promise of us being royally screwed has been a load of rubbish.

What do you say now?

Regardless, Merry Xmas to all.
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:51 pm

Lastly ............. this deal is why we had to get rid of the EU shill b*tch Theresa May, that lying two faced tw*t literally tried to sell us down the river with that sh*t deal she came up with which would of left us a vassel state.

Thankfully we had enough politicans in the House with backbone.
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Re: British Politics

Postby dc16 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:11 pm

Phil71 wrote:
LMAO wrote:The EU and the UK agree to a deal. Seems like all it took was a 48-hour blockade :lol:

Now to get 28 countries to ratify it.


You mean the Coronavirus-related border closure by France, condemning lorry drivers from all over Europe to spending Christmas alone in their cabs with no food or sanitation?

Yes that was lifted after heads of state from all over Europe got on the phone to Macron and told him not to be such a silly c***.


I felt for them. They looked really destroyed and rightly f***ked off by it all. Thankfully it is on its way to getting sorted.

As for Brexit each side will try and put as much spin on it as possible but you get more of a sense of damage limitation from the EU side. They don’t want to sell it as a success for the UK as the last thing they want is other members states wanting a bit of what we have. The BBC and other media outlets seem a little disappointed that they don’t get to peddle the no deal doomsday scenario any longer.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Royal Gooner » Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:15 pm

dc16 wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
LMAO wrote:The EU and the UK agree to a deal. Seems like all it took was a 48-hour blockade :lol:

Now to get 28 countries to ratify it.


You mean the Coronavirus-related border closure by France, condemning lorry drivers from all over Europe to spending Christmas alone in their cabs with no food or sanitation?

Yes that was lifted after heads of state from all over Europe got on the phone to Macron and told him not to be such a silly c***.


I felt for them. They looked really destroyed and rightly f***ked off by it all. Thankfully it is on its way to getting sorted.

As for Brexit each side will try and put as much spin on it as possible but you get more of a sense of damage limitation from the EU side. They don’t want to sell it as a success for the UK as the last thing they want is other members states wanting a bit of what we have. The BBC and other media outlets seem a little disappointed that they don’t get to peddle the no deal doomsday scenario any longer.


It seems like the best we could have got out of it. Yes, we were never going to get everything we wanted but the fact it seems we can trade freely with the EU and make deals around the world on our own terms with our own laws in exchange for a slow phase out of EU fishing in our waters seems really the best we could have realistically hoped for.
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Re: British Politics

Postby EliteKiller » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:11 pm

A Deal was always going to be achieved - it was in both parties best interest - only die-hard fools argued against that.

Is it a good deal? only time will tell ... like it or not the democratic process worked and the UK has now become an independent nation once again. Free to make its own decisions be they good or bad.

Said it before and stand by it, the EU as a Free Trading Zone was a huge success as a Federal Europe a huge fail - superficially it looks as if we have remained in the Free Trade Zone whilst leaving the Federal State - isn't that what Leave was all about?

For all the "guaranteed" project fear idiots - do you still think we're going to see an economic collapse, no medicine or food, no flights? or will you now accept that was all media click-bait nonsense?

Boris the clown has delivered a Brexit Happy Christmas let's all enjoy.
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:52 pm

EliteKiller wrote:For all the "guaranteed" project fear idiots - do you still think we're going to see an economic collapse, no medicine or food, no flights? or will you now accept that was all media click-bait nonsense?


I told UFGN this from day one.

That's his problem, he's so extreme in his beliefs because he's led purely by agenda, he never wanted Leave so never entertained any sort of "good outcome" his beliefs wouldn't allow for it.

However myself on the other hand I gave an honest opinion of the outcome of Brexit to summerise ......... "I don't know if we're going to better or worse off but that's not the underlying point, the point is we will be a sovereign nation once again not held by the European Court over the vote of the British public through parliament".

He on the other hand adopted the "The world is going to end, Britain will be in ruin, the markets will be destroyed, no food, no medicine, all finance will leave London for France, no deals".

Not really leaving himself room to manouver now did he, I said all along no one can comment on the outcome because your measuring your forecast against a deal which hasn't been done yet.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:13 am

If an owner of a golf course wishes to play a game of golf around it that is no business of politicians. He's not opening it to the public and is breaking no laws.

Sturgeon should shut up and busy herself with more important things - and stop trying to score political points. She's just making herself look petty with all of this nonsense.
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Re: British Politics

Postby LMAO » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:53 pm

Good on Sturgeon for embracing Brexit and taking control of Scotland's borders :clap:
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Re: British Politics

Postby Royal Gooner » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:16 pm

Phil71 wrote:If an owner of a golf course wishes to play a game of golf around it that is no business of politicians. He's not opening it to the public and is breaking no laws.

Sturgeon should shut up and busy herself with more important things - and stop trying to score political points. She's just making herself look petty with all of this nonsense.


Plus she has no power over UK border control.
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:23 pm

EU is enacting a block on Covid Vaccine jabs between Ireland and Northern Island.

............. possibly the most despicable move you can pull when people are dying.

Irelands Prime minister didn't even know about, he found out last that the EU were invoking article 16 which gives them the right to refuse imports to Ireland.

............ where are all the Remainers now to denounce this?

People wonder why we left, EU is a dictator by proxy, and countries actually sign themselves over voluntarily ffs, rights stripped.

They've now after calls from Boris, stepped back from doing it only because of what I assume was a stern phone call, but the fact that nest of vipers was actually did it to begin with is not the act of a friend.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:33 pm

They're showing their hand for what they really are. Vindictive bastards.
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Re: British Politics

Postby EliteKiller » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:00 pm

Like all unwieldy large bureaucratic bodies the EU is incapable of managing a crisis, the same shambolic response can be seen with the federal government in the US, there are some things were size matters, free trade being the prime example, however once the Common Market became the Federal EU it was only a matter of time before it fell apart ... a fast small one will always beat a slow big one ... that's just the way life works.
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