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Re: British Politics

Postby Royal Gooner » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:20 pm

Phil71 wrote:Labour Party in turmoil as the unions say they want Corbyn reinstated, and Party members threatening to resign in their thousands.


:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

Those loony lefties just cannot see the writing on the wall.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Royal Gooner » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:21 pm

Phil71 wrote:I think Raab will take over from Boris if he goes.


Well it certainly won't be Gove. The Tory membership will remember him stabbing Boris in the back at May's leadership election
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:37 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
Phil71 wrote:Labour Party in turmoil as the unions say they want Corbyn reinstated, and Party members threatening to resign in their thousands.


Starmer is doing God's work in further destroying the Labour party.
They will be in the political wilderness for decades after their Brexit betrayal and rancid anti-Semitism.
The party of hate.

With Boris acting like a dictator, hopefully, the Conservatives will be taken down too and we can maybe, just maybe, get a real party to rise up.
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Who did you have in mind?
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Re: British Politics

Postby Yago » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:43 pm

Considering his posts on this forum, he's probably rooting for the BNP.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:34 pm

Yago wrote:Considering his posts on this forum, he's probably rooting for the BNP.


Are they still going?

Anyway, I've never seen posts from Jayram that would make me think he'd vote for the BNP.
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Re: British Politics

Postby LMAO » Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:13 am

On this side of the pond, something has been lost in the festivities of Biden being announced as president-elect.

What does a future US-UK trade deal look like now? Biden is going to hold the UK to honoring the GFA, and he has our domestic issues to deal with during his first 100 days instead of focusing on a trade deal with y'all. He and Harris aren't big fans of BoJo, though are the rumors true that BoJo will step down after the transition period concludes at the end of this year and Gove will become PM sometime next year?
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:57 am

LMAO wrote:On this side of the pond, something has been lost in the festivities of Biden being announced as president-elect.

What does a future US-UK trade deal look like now? Biden is going to hold the UK to honoring the GFA, and he has our domestic issues to deal with during his first 100 days instead of focusing on a trade deal with y'all. He and Harris aren't big fans of BoJo, though are the rumors true that BoJo will step down after the transition period concludes at the end of this year and Gove will become PM sometime next year?


The UK government has at no time during the brexit talks mentioned any change to the GFA.

And if Sleepy Joe intends to get involved in Irish politics I hope he takes a less partisan approach than his previous behaviour might indicate.
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Re: British Politics

Postby EliteKiller » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:17 am

LMAO wrote:On this side of the pond, something has been lost in the festivities of Biden being announced as president-elect.

What does a future US-UK trade deal look like now? Biden is going to hold the UK to honoring the GFA, and he has our domestic issues to deal with during his first 100 days instead of focusing on a trade deal with y'all. He and Harris aren't big fans of BoJo, though are the rumors true that BoJo will step down after the transition period concludes at the end of this year and Gove will become PM sometime next year?


Pretty sure that's fake news about Boris ...almost unheard of in UK politics.

As for Biden he's not well liked by the UK establishment, he was far to close to the IRA back in the day that never gets forgotten ... the GFA isn't on the table which shows just how out of touch Biden is.

My view for what it's worth is that Biden will have far to many issues at home to worry much about the UK ... his whole approach so far seems to be to reverse everything Trump did ... 70m people won't like that so the deep divisions will just get deeper.

The US desperately needs forward thinking leadership not just more revenge politics ... however good that makes 51% feel.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:07 am

Apparently he brought up the topic of brexit and the GFA at the request of his old mate Gerry Adams.

Maybe he comes from the Corbyn camp of having undesirable bedfellows.
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Re: British Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:22 am

EliteKiller wrote:
LMAO wrote:On this side of the pond, something has been lost in the festivities of Biden being announced as president-elect.

What does a future US-UK trade deal look like now? Biden is going to hold the UK to honoring the GFA, and he has our domestic issues to deal with during his first 100 days instead of focusing on a trade deal with y'all. He and Harris aren't big fans of BoJo, though are the rumors true that BoJo will step down after the transition period concludes at the end of this year and Gove will become PM sometime next year?


Pretty sure that's fake news about Boris ...almost unheard of in UK politics.

As for Biden he's not well liked by the UK establishment, he was far to close to the IRA back in the day that never gets forgotten ... the GFA isn't on the table which shows just how out of touch Biden is.

My view for what it's worth is that Biden will have far to many issues at home to worry much about the UK ... his whole approach so far seems to be to reverse everything Trump did ... 70m people won't like that so the deep divisions will just get deeper.

The US desperately needs forward thinking leadership not just more revenge politics ... however good that makes 51% feel.



The US didn't elect a President in Biden, they elected a return to Govt no longer of the people. Biden is just the stuffed suit that people put a tick against. The biggest problem for us in the UK is that a US trade deal is pretty much off the table now. Biden will get his orders from the same people who control the EU - he'll be used to put pressure on the UK govt to yield to EU demands.
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Re: British Politics

Postby EliteKiller » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:42 am

jayramfootball wrote:The US didn't elect a President in Biden, they elected a return to Govt no longer of the people. Biden is just the stuffed suit that people put a tick against. The biggest problem for us in the UK is that a US trade deal is pretty much off the table now. Biden will get his orders from the same people who control the EU - he'll be used to put pressure on the UK govt to yield to EU demands.


I would say the exact opposite - Trump would have demanded all sorts of concessions, his ego would have insisted on it - under Biden corporate America will want a Deal done as quickly as possible, there's billions at stake so it will happen, watch out for Chris Coons he's likely to be Biden's SoS he has always strongly favoured a quick UK / US deal.
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Re: British Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:31 pm

EliteKiller wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:The US didn't elect a President in Biden, they elected a return to Govt no longer of the people. Biden is just the stuffed suit that people put a tick against. The biggest problem for us in the UK is that a US trade deal is pretty much off the table now. Biden will get his orders from the same people who control the EU - he'll be used to put pressure on the UK govt to yield to EU demands.


I would say the exact opposite - Trump would have demanded all sorts of concessions, his ego would have insisted on it - under Biden corporate America will want a Deal done as quickly as possible, there's billions at stake so it will happen, watch out for Chris Coons he's likely to be Biden's SoS he has always strongly favoured a quick UK / US deal.



The worry is what we'll have to concede to the EU to get it.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Royal Gooner » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:15 pm

EliteKiller wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:The US didn't elect a President in Biden, they elected a return to Govt no longer of the people. Biden is just the stuffed suit that people put a tick against. The biggest problem for us in the UK is that a US trade deal is pretty much off the table now. Biden will get his orders from the same people who control the EU - he'll be used to put pressure on the UK govt to yield to EU demands.


I would say the exact opposite - Trump would have demanded all sorts of concessions, his ego would have insisted on it - under Biden corporate America will want a Deal done as quickly as possible, there's billions at stake so it will happen, watch out for Chris Coons he's likely to be Biden's SoS he has always strongly favoured a quick UK / US deal.


We had an advantage in Trump as he's half British and he wanted a deal, whereas in Biden you have a plastic Paddy who just parrots Pelosi's line of no trade deal if anything interferes with the GFA. Biden will take forever to even get to the table and will offer nothing. WE should start looking more at joining the TPP.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Callum » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:47 pm

Why should the Good Friday Agreement be negotiated, though? Because the UK has put it's foot in it and wants some wiggle room?

I don't see why the Irish, EU or Americans would or should be open to it. It's a mess of the UK's own doing.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Callum » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:47 pm

Phil71 wrote:Apparently he brought up the topic of brexit and the GFA at the request of his old mate Gerry Adams.

Maybe he comes from the Corbyn camp of having undesirable bedfellows.

Hmm...

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