British Politics

[Sims]

Miliband is a wally. That's why he lost control of the Party. They could see he was un-electable. MInd you, the bloke they chose to replace him was even less so.

They're generally un-electable as a Party. It's why they've only held power for 13 of the last 41 years.

If Boris Johnson was somehow the leader of the opposition he would be deemed unelectable as well

He’s just never pictured as it in the media. He’s a scruff, he’s incoherent, a poor speaker, he has no retort whenever he’s put on the spot, he’s had howlers in PR (being stuck on a zip line, rugby tackling a 8 year old, head butting an ex german footballer in the nads) and is a guy who doesn’t even acknowledge the kids he has with several women

But he’s not “un-electable”?

[Phil71]

The harsh reality is that Labour need to be centre left at most to get any sort of foothold in the country again until the older generations start kicking the bucket - and I don’t mean to be disrespectful by that statement at all

I wasn’t a massive Corbyn fan but it was borderline delusional to think that a right wing country would swing to the left that far that quickly, it was just a massive waste of time and only solidified tories voters beliefs more - damaging labour’s chances over the long term

Having the young vote is fine, problem is that Labour completely lost the working class and the Tories capitalised on it. The biggest trick they’ve ever done is convincing the Conservatives is the party to elect if you want the working classes best interests at heart

So get rid of the old, the wealthy and the working classes and Labour have a chance?

[jayramfootball]

The harsh reality is that Labour need to be centre left at most to get any sort of foothold in the country again until the older generations start kicking the bucket - and I don’t mean to be disrespectful by that statement at all

I wasn’t a massive Corbyn fan but it was borderline delusional to think that a right wing country would swing to the left that far that quickly, it was just a massive waste of time and only solidified tories voters beliefs more - damaging labour’s chances over the long term

Having the young vote is fine, problem is that Labour completely lost the working class and the Tories capitalised on it. The biggest trick they’ve ever done is convincing the Conservatives is the party to elect if you want the working classes best interests at heart

The younger generation becomes the older generation - and in that journey they realise that the Labour Party is not for them. Also, it will take the country a long time to forget the traitorous behaviour of Labour in the Brexit saga.

[jayramfootball]

Miliband is a wally. That's why he lost control of the Party. They could see he was un-electable. MInd you, the bloke they chose to replace him was even less so.

They're generally un-electable as a Party. It's why they've only held power for 13 of the last 41 years.

If Boris Johnson was somehow the leader of the opposition he would be deemed unelectable as well

He’s just never pictured as it in the media. He’s a scruff, he’s incoherent, a poor speaker, he has no retort whenever he’s put on the spot, he’s had howlers in PR (being stuck on a zip line, rugby tackling a 8 year old, head butting an ex german footballer in the nads) and is a guy who doesn’t even acknowledge the kids he has with several women

But he’s not “un-electable”?

No, he was elected on Brexit. His stance would have won the day as an opposition to labours position. I don;t think remoaners quite understand how disgusting their behaviour was.

[Phil71]

Miliband is a wally. That's why he lost control of the Party. They could see he was un-electable. MInd you, the bloke they chose to replace him was even less so.

They're generally un-electable as a Party. It's why they've only held power for 13 of the last 41 years.

If Boris Johnson was somehow the leader of the opposition he would be deemed unelectable as well

He’s just never pictured as it in the media. He’s a scruff, he’s incoherent, a poor speaker, he has no retort whenever he’s put on the spot, he’s had howlers in PR (being stuck on a zip line, rugby tackling a 8 year old, head butting an ex german footballer in the nads) and is a guy who doesn’t even acknowledge the kids he has with several women

But he’s not “un-electable”?

Obviously. He was elected.

[Dubs4Sam]

You either didn't read the brexit agreement or you didn't understand it - pretty damning sound bite from last night.

[Phil71]

It should have been obvious to everyone that this would happen.

Why else would the DUP and the Tory brexiteer MPs have suddenly backed a bill that was almost identical from a backstop perspective to May's deal. Boris was even overheard telling a group of NI business people that they have nothing to worry about as there would be no checks between NI and the mainland.

[Callum]

England is doomed. Time for Ireland to reunite and Scotland to gain its independence. Wales, meh.

[DiamondGooner]

Think Ed would’ve been a great PM

Problem is when you’ve got all the Tory newspapers going for you, making the country believe you’re an idiot for eating a bacon sandwich, it’s not gonna end well

Though Boris Johnson who’s a professional bumbler and clown who has about 6 kids he doesn’t acknowledge gets away scott free

Funny that

Exactly this. And the press is apparently biased against the tories

Cry me a river.

Some rags are pro Labour, some are pro Cons, we all know which ones are which so don't play the martyr.

[DiamondGooner]

The younger generation becomes the older generation - and in that journey they realise that the Labour Party is not for them. Also, it will take the country a long time to forget the traitorous behaviour of Labour in the Brexit saga.

Exactly, this is a proven trend.

People were saying the same thing in the 60's with the Hippie generation "All this oldies will die off then it will be peace and love mannnnn".

When you get older, have kids and a job with a mortgage you become more responsible and thus more open to conservative view points, your no longer the scraggly long haired kid sitting on the grass rolling up a doobie wondering why everyone is so serious.

England is doomed. Time for Ireland to reunite and Scotland to gain its independence. Wales, meh.

Yet Scotland voted against that, bit difficult to kick a country out of the UK club when the majority vote against leaving don't you think? NI would be the same.

[Callum]

Polls have been swinging in favour of independence in recent months. It's starting to feel more and more likely. One of the key factors for the "No" vote in 2014 was the UK (and therefore Scotland's) membership of the EU, so obviously that's changed and the majority of Scots wanted to remain. I think everything that's happened since has just alienated a lot of Scottish people and now independence doesn't seem quite so intimidating given they're being dragged out of the EU against its will anyway.

[Pat Rice in Short Shorts]

Polls have been swinging in favour of independence in recent months. It's starting to feel more and more likely. One of the key factors for the "No" vote in 2014 was the UK (and therefore Scotland's) membership of the EU, so obviously that's changed and the majority of Scots wanted to remain. I think everything that's happened since has just alienated a lot of Scottish people and now independence doesn't seem quite so intimidating given they're being dragged out of the EU against its will anyway.

But where will the Queen holiday for grouse shooting????????

[Callum]

Polls have been swinging in favour of independence in recent months. It's starting to feel more and more likely. One of the key factors for the "No" vote in 2014 was the UK (and therefore Scotland's) membership of the EU, so obviously that's changed and the majority of Scots wanted to remain. I think everything that's happened since has just alienated a lot of Scottish people and now independence doesn't seem quite so intimidating given they're being dragged out of the EU against its will anyway.

But where will the Queen holiday for grouse shooting????????

Croydon.

[Pat Rice in Short Shorts]

Polls have been swinging in favour of independence in recent months. It's starting to feel more and more likely. One of the key factors for the "No" vote in 2014 was the UK (and therefore Scotland's) membership of the EU, so obviously that's changed and the majority of Scots wanted to remain. I think everything that's happened since has just alienated a lot of Scottish people and now independence doesn't seem quite so intimidating given they're being dragged out of the EU against its will anyway.

But where will the Queen holiday for grouse shooting????????

Croydon.

No that is where she hunts peasants on Council Estates!

[Phil71]

England is doomed. Time for Ireland to reunite and Scotland to gain its independence. Wales, meh.

Scotland will stay a part of the UK and do as it's told.