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Re: British Politics

Postby Royal Gooner » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:47 pm

Sims wrote:gerry adams wouldve sorted this all out


The former Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Manor of Northstead has got his bit in by saying he won't support his friend Comrade Corbyn by allowing his MPs to go to Westminster.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Zedie » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:50 pm

Finally, a chance to sit down and talk about this f***ing madness.

Firstly, GET IN.

A few comments:

GoonerAlexis wrote:So we're going to be governed by the Irish, after everyone voted against Labour 2 years ago to prevent us being ruled from Scotland ;)


Not only that, the DUP, who literally made a donation to a terrorist organisation only last week. A party that is homophobic, climate denying, 10,000 year old earth believing bigots. I urge anyone that has any sort of progressive thought to read up on exactly who we are marching into Westminster, its appalling.

I almost feel sorry for Tory voters tbf. They had the majority, were in the driving seat and May flip flopped to call an election she didnt need to in the run up to Brexit negotations. She then goes on to literally say f**k all apart from slogans and when the silence became too deafening, she unleashes a manifesto that literally attacks the young, old, working class and middle class.

Worst of all, she attacked the f***ing NHS. THE NHS. Its as British as Mary Poppins and for anyone to put the people that save our lives and pick us up when we are down is an imbecile.

Her whole campaign was attack attack attack at Corbyn and she forgot to actually put any benefits to why you should be voting Tory, instead of why you should be scared to vote for Corbyn. shes been doing it since he was announced as leader, through two leadership contests and even f***ing now once she had her arse handed to her.

The only thing i got out of Theresa May in the last 8 weeks was strong and stable. Since triggering article 50, she:

U turns on increasing taxes on the self employed

U turns on a general election

Refuses to engage with anyone thats not a Tory fanboy for 6 weeks.

Trots out catchphrases like Strong and Stable and Coalition of Chaos.

Doesnt release any detail about her manifesto for 5 weeks.

Drops bombshell on public that NHS will be forced to sell off its land to pay for essential services (to the greedy c*** heartless private developers that i have to deal with every day. Trust me, these lot dont give a f**k about anyone thats not a blue blood).

Drops bombshell on pensioners with winter fuel cuts and dementia tax.

Refuses to even stand up for herself, her party, or her voters in live debates and media outlets that arent right wing, or soft as f**k.

Loses majority.

Jumps in bed with the only available party with seats, regardless of their dubious beliefs, who genuinely believe the Earth is 10,000 years old rather than do the honorable thing and stand down.

Strong and Stable?

This c*** has been whining about Corbyn's conversations with Sinn Fein and how hes a terrorist sympathiser for 8 weeks and literally jumps in bed with a paramilitary connected political party on the other side of Sinn Fein within hours to save her own job?

f**k off ya c***.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Zedie » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:53 pm

Reverend Gooner wrote:I agree with your posts DG. The sense I have been getting today is the same. We had a big discussion at work at lunch and the NHS was mentioned more times than Brexit.

It is not just the political parties that have a lot to learn from this but the press also (and I bet they won't). We saw it with Trump where the coverage was full of attacks on him and calling him everything under the sun and trying to tell people what to think of him and eventually it backfired. Whether what is being said is right or wrong people have had enough of being aggressively force fed viewpoints. We saw it here again with Corbyn and the constant attacks and name calling he got, Corbyn is this, that and the other non stop from many facets of the press and in the end people had enough of it and it had the reverse effect. It is like the term 'loony left', in the 2000s that was quite a useful piece of rhetoric but now while it makes the already converted nod, many independants and undecideds will read that kind of rhetoric and it will backfire on the writer. People are sick of that kind of stuff, whichever side is spewing it and the media needs to learn how to report professionally or lose their credibility altogether, Thank God for the internet and the ability for mass direct communication to help neuter that kind of s***.



Bang on.

Please talk about the facts that matter, what will affect the vast majority of peoples lives, how you will help those that are struggling, not slogans. Im sick of reading sound bites, i want to hear what your plan is ffs.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Zedie » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:54 pm

Where the f**k is UFGN btw, when did he last post?
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Re: British Politics

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:07 pm

Zedie wrote:Where the f**k is UFGN btw, when did he last post?


May 26th, he left the forum -

UFGN wrote:I'm hugely disappointed with this place and I'm off. I've mentioned the casual trolling several times. Nothing's been done, nothing's going to be done.

A choice has been made imo to keep clowns instead of people who have contributed to the forum for years. I'm not claiming to be a great poster but I'm someone who did care about this place being successful and tried to help make that happen.

I'm very disillusioned with Arsenal as well obviously and after the FA cup final I'll be taking an extended hiatus from the club as well.

All the best to the guys who are real xxx
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Re: British Politics

Postby Callum » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:34 am

Royal Gooner wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-poll-latest-tory-win-results-corbyn-theresa-may-a7777781.html

Seems even the lefty Independent is saying that May is heading for a landslide. Labour can't argue against the trouncing they're going to get because because they voted for this early election and their own doing for having such a weak leader (Who openly admitted he won't step down if he gets thrashed).

As I have always said; you can't win power in the UK with socialism. And I would now add: especially not with outdated 80s socialism.

Hahahahahaha

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Re: British Politics

Postby Callum » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:40 am

May was right - vote Labour and we'll have terrorist sympathisers in government. What a farce.

Twice in two years two Tory leaders have put party before country. Cameron was our worst PM ever for barely a year. May's legacy is secured with this, the biggest bottling since we lost the Carling Cup final to Birmingham City. She lost a 20 point lead in 6 weeks.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:48 am

Callum wrote:May was right - vote Labour and we'll have terrorist sympathisers in government. What a farce.

Twice in two years two Tory leaders have put party before country. Cameron was our worst PM ever for barely a year. May's legacy is secured with this, the biggest bottling since we lost the Carling Cup final to Birmingham City. She lost a 20 point lead in 6 weeks.


Fantastic stuff.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Zedie » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:46 am

Va-Va-Voom wrote:
Callum wrote:May was right - vote Labour and we'll have terrorist sympathisers in government. What a farce.

Twice in two years two Tory leaders have put party before country. Cameron was our worst PM ever for barely a year. May's legacy is secured with this, the biggest bottling since we lost the Carling Cup final to Birmingham City. She lost a 20 point lead in 6 weeks.


Fantastic stuff.


Yup. Worst part is, she could complete the collapse with this coalition with the DUP.

Moderate/centrist cons are going to be in for a surprise when this cluster f**k hits the road. Well have another gm within a year and cons will lose further ground.

She's stupid to stay, any attempt to regain favour with the voters will look insincere and yet another u turn. Moving forward with her domestic plans will create more anger.

Her credibility is shot in Europe after such an imbecilic move, they'll be laughing when the negotiations start in 9 days.

I genuinely can't believe she's trying to firm it and continue like nothing happened...
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Re: British Politics

Postby Callum » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:56 am

Tories and the DUP reach an agreement as May forms her minority government
Brexit negotiations begin as May trudges on defiantly
Corbyn's momentum continues as support for Labour grows
May announces she will resign after a few months after pressure from the opposition and her own party
BoJo sworn in as PM, calls another election to earn his party a workable majority
British public reject the Tories after a farcical few years
Corbyn sweeps to victory winning 649 seats in unprecedented landslide (Caroline Lucas holds on in Brighton)
Madlad Corbz shags the queen
EU say we can stay after all and forget all about this last few years
Railways, gas companies and Adele are nationalised
Lord Buckethead announced as Home Secretary
Demand for allotments goes through the roof, more land needed
UK invades the Isle of Man, France and Madagascar
Islington renamed Corbyngrad
Gay marriage made mandatory

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Re: British Politics

Postby Zedie » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:53 am

Va-Va-Voom wrote:
Zedie wrote:Where the f**k is UFGN btw, when did he last post?


May 26th, he left the forum -

UFGN wrote:I'm hugely disappointed with this place and I'm off. I've mentioned the casual trolling several times. Nothing's been done, nothing's going to be done.

A choice has been made imo to keep clowns instead of people who have contributed to the forum for years. I'm not claiming to be a great poster but I'm someone who did care about this place being successful and tried to help make that happen.

I'm very disillusioned with Arsenal as well obviously and after the FA cup final I'll be taking an extended hiatus from the club as well.

All the best to the guys who are real xxx


Ffs man up and bask in Tory misery on the forum. If you're reading this, take a break from taking a break so we can have a quick chat about how hollow Theresa May is and Amber Rudds face when she thought she was going to lose her seat
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Re: British Politics

Postby Sims » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:57 am

It's great that after all the time tories were moaning about Corbyn's terrorist links that May has to actually work with paramilitary terrorists in order to stay in government

Phenomenal stuff
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Re: British Politics

Postby Zedie » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:14 am

Sims wrote:It's great that after all the time tories were moaning about Corbyn's terrorist links that May has to actually work with paramilitary terrorists in order to stay in government

Phenomenal stuff


It's beyond hypocracy. These lot have been talking the most smack about him and labour for so long and then this happens.
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Re: British Politics

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:06 am

Zedie wrote:
Reverend Gooner wrote:I agree with your posts DG. The sense I have been getting today is the same. We had a big discussion at work at lunch and the NHS was mentioned more times than Brexit.

It is not just the political parties that have a lot to learn from this but the press also (and I bet they won't). We saw it with Trump where the coverage was full of attacks on him and calling him everything under the sun and trying to tell people what to think of him and eventually it backfired. Whether what is being said is right or wrong people have had enough of being aggressively force fed viewpoints. We saw it here again with Corbyn and the constant attacks and name calling he got, Corbyn is this, that and the other non stop from many facets of the press and in the end people had enough of it and it had the reverse effect. It is like the term 'loony left', in the 2000s that was quite a useful piece of rhetoric but now while it makes the already converted nod, many independants and undecideds will read that kind of rhetoric and it will backfire on the writer. People are sick of that kind of stuff, whichever side is spewing it and the media needs to learn how to report professionally or lose their credibility altogether, Thank God for the internet and the ability for mass direct communication to help neuter that kind of s***.



Bang on.

Please talk about the facts that matter, what will affect the vast majority of peoples lives, how you will help those that are struggling, not slogans. Im sick of reading sound bites, i want to hear what your plan is ffs.

Then why did people vote for what was nothing more than a series of soundbites, with the fully costed manifesto having a financial blackhole? Students voting for no tuition fees, funded by tax hikes for the rich, when such tax hikes are proven to bring in even less revenue than before. The tax intake in 2010 from the rich and big businesses was less than it is now. That was when taxes on rich people and corporation tax was higher than it is now. But let's ignore all this in favour of some fantasy of free tuition fees, et all. That's all while ignoring that Corbyn supported the IRA, supported Hamas and called Hezbollah "our friends".

All this proved was you can bribe the electorate and they're stupid enough to fall for it.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Luzh 22 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:35 pm

GoonerAlexis wrote:
Zedie wrote:
Reverend Gooner wrote:I agree with your posts DG. The sense I have been getting today is the same. We had a big discussion at work at lunch and the NHS was mentioned more times than Brexit.

It is not just the political parties that have a lot to learn from this but the press also (and I bet they won't). We saw it with Trump where the coverage was full of attacks on him and calling him everything under the sun and trying to tell people what to think of him and eventually it backfired. Whether what is being said is right or wrong people have had enough of being aggressively force fed viewpoints. We saw it here again with Corbyn and the constant attacks and name calling he got, Corbyn is this, that and the other non stop from many facets of the press and in the end people had enough of it and it had the reverse effect. It is like the term 'loony left', in the 2000s that was quite a useful piece of rhetoric but now while it makes the already converted nod, many independants and undecideds will read that kind of rhetoric and it will backfire on the writer. People are sick of that kind of stuff, whichever side is spewing it and the media needs to learn how to report professionally or lose their credibility altogether, Thank God for the internet and the ability for mass direct communication to help neuter that kind of s***.



Bang on.

Please talk about the facts that matter, what will affect the vast majority of peoples lives, how you will help those that are struggling, not slogans. Im sick of reading sound bites, i want to hear what your plan is ffs.

Then why did people vote for what was nothing more than a series of soundbites, with the fully costed manifesto having a financial blackhole? Students voting for no tuition fees, funded by tax hikes for the rich, when such tax hikes are proven to bring in even less revenue than before. The tax intake in 2010 from the rich and big businesses was less than it is now. That was when taxes on rich people and corporation tax was higher than it is now. But let's ignore all this in favour of some fantasy of free tuition fees, et all. That's all while ignoring that Corbyn supported the IRA, supported Hamas and called Hezbollah "our friends".

All this proved was you can bribe the electorate and they're stupid enough to fall for it.


Pretty much this.

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