LMAO wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:
You lot are talking proper sh*t in all honesty.
"Why would the EU extend article 50" ......... because their worst nightmare is a No Deal Britain that's why.
Fine, watch and see, Parliament will NOT allow No Deal, they have made that clear as day, the EU are not ready for it and their entire market of businesses will lose their sh*t if over night the profitable British customer market doesn't want their goods because their prices are no longer competitive, UK kicks France out of our fishing waters, Gibraltar cuts off from Europe and Ireland has a border go up because we're out of the Customs union.
............... how much more clear do I have to make it?
No Deal is not happening.
We'll either have three things, an extension of Article 50 which is already being demanded, a Deal scurried together like Norway (unlikely in time) or a cancellation of the whole thing to Remain.
If the EU are being stubborn about extending its because its a calculated gamble of playing chicken, they know Parliament won't allow No Deal so they're betting we cancel Brexit instead, if it looks like No Deal will happen then watch the EU hand us an extension on a silver plate right before the deadline.
They can play political cat and mouse all they want, but the end results are clear as day.
Humorous how we're talking shit while you simultaneously act like you're an expert.
While both parties lose with No Deal, the UK needs the EU more than the EU needs the UK, thus it's not unreasonable to say the EU holds the cards. And besides, the EU didn't vote to kick the UK out, so there's no reason for them to be held hostage over the dipshits in Parliament. It's 2019, not 1900. The British Empire is dead. The UK doesn't have the clout of America, China, or even Russia to be making demands.
Your PMs can demand an extension of Article 50 all they want, but the EU has made it clear there won't be an extension without May shifting her red line, which she doesn't appear to be in favor of doing. So we can throw that out the window for now. Then there's the revoking of A50, but will Parliament have the votes? Would they even have the votes for May's deal if it came down to that or No Deal? Based on what's happened thus far, No Deal Brexit seems like the likely scenario due to the sheer incompetence of your government (a lot of it stemming from no uniform meaning of the type of Brexit). Maybe you can get a Norway or a Switzerland deal a few years after March 29 when May is no longer PM.
Its not about the "British Empire" its that Britain is practically Europes best customer, we put money into the EU and we buy at elevated prices from the EU on their goods.
Anyone notice how fags and booze are cheaper abroad? we get fleeced quite frankly and losing a customer base of millions who spend like theirs no tomorrow will hit the EU hard, plus minus our billions of membership money and the biggest economy in the EU outside of Germany and France.
Quite frankly I'm not going to argue with you, you will see in due time, No Deal happening is not even a question, no one in a decision making position wants or will allow it ............. if you choose to believe different then that's your ignorance, you've obviously either not being paying attention or your falling for spin.
Reverend Gooner wrote:BBC reporting that May still wants to get her deal through, is she that stubborn and deluded!
Do you want the short answer?