I'll bite, I cannot resist
Héctor24 wrote:still doesnt explain why you would say this
I don't have to belive in an asshole of a God that will send me to the depths of hell to be a good person.
Why would you belittle religious people using incentives to not do bad things but be ok with it in pretty much every other situation?
because the incentive of religious people is subject to interpretation and can be "missused" - and has been throughout history countless times.
For instance, a person can kill someone, justify it by saying that "they were doing gods mission" and think they'll still go to heaven - even tho' they killed someone.
My incentive is REAL, not subject to interpretation.
So, you have fundamentalist believers that will do anything to go to "heaven" and live their life by bible / quran or w/e. And even tho' they'll break laws - they will still think they did "gods work" and think they did nothing wrong.
Murderers throughout history used the lines "gods work" "god told me to do so" etc.
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Someone who takes this bullcrap 1:1 is going to do a lot of harm - regardless of the laws of countries.
Héctor24 wrote:but her actions didnt take away from their right to get married all they had to do is go to someone who was willing to marry them.
Why should they ? Why should they have to travel out of town to get married ?
The US Supreme Court said that gay couples could get married - PERIOD.
It was her JOB to which she was ELECTED to give out marriage licenses. She didn't do it based on her religious beliefs. Even tho' she violated those same beliefs countless times before. She USED her religion as an excuse for her bigotry - it is really that simple.
Conscientious objection is bullshit in every sense of the way.
Héctor24 wrote:It may not be known to you because it isnt as widely reported but certain ministers and priests also reject marrying hetrosexuals based on lifestyle choices.
Why should I care ?
Those people didn't walz into a church. They were inside a STATE BUILDING. Their lifestyle choices or sexaul orientation are completely irrelevant when it comes to obtaining a marriage license.
Héctor24 wrote:Its like a christian going to a mosque and wondering why theey werent allowed to be married there.
no it's not.
This was a STATE BUILDING.
And by LAW of that state - gay couples HAVE the right to get married.
She has to abide the law just like everybody else. She didn't abide it because of her "religious beliefs".
Héctor24 wrote:If many people take up your way of thinking and make a big point of it she could (she probably already has) lose her job.
That is the whole point.
She had a job (for which she is paid) and she didn't do it - she SHOULD be fired / impeached. And I hope she will be.
Héctor24 wrote:Now i already know your opinion on marriage we've already discussed this so i'm quite sure you dont even value marriage as important in this day an age.
Church marriage - i don't give a damn about.
Héctor24 wrote:come on now there's no point in even trying to claim this. Maybe you aren't explicitly but you're definitely trying to sway people a certain direction if you arent why would you even post. You started off criticising religion and you brought case in as evidence to justify your criticism. Whether or not you've conciously thought to spread you way of thinking doesnt matter no one presents an opinion with the intention of people ignoring it.
I'm not trying to sway anyone into anything.