The gays can have it!
by Est83 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:28 pm
by Apollo » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:31 pm
StLGooner wrote:Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:
I agree with the above posters, it's pointless and only makes it harder to get out of a relationship.
That is kinda the point.
And it shouldn't be hard to get out of a relationship.
by StLGooner » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:39 pm
Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:
I agree with the above posters, it's pointless and only makes it harder to get out of a relationship.
That is kinda the point.
And it shouldn't be hard to get out of a relationship.
It isn't difficult getting out of a relationship, which again is one of the major reasons why marriage exists.
by Apollo » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:46 pm
StLGooner wrote:Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:
I agree with the above posters, it's pointless and only makes it harder to get out of a relationship.
That is kinda the point.
And it shouldn't be hard to get out of a relationship.
It isn't difficult getting out of a relationship, which again is one of the major reasons why marriage exists.
It is difficult getting out of a marriage It literally can cost thousands, and why some just end up staying together, which isn't a good thing.
by StLGooner » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:56 pm
Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:
I agree with the above posters, it's pointless and only makes it harder to get out of a relationship.
That is kinda the point.
And it shouldn't be hard to get out of a relationship.
It isn't difficult getting out of a relationship, which again is one of the major reasons why marriage exists.
It is difficult getting out of a marriage It literally can cost thousands, and why some just end up staying together, which isn't a good thing.
Precisely
Im not talking about how anybody personally chooses to deal with their relationships, and what couples do and don't do, or how couples should choose to live their lives, or what reasons people should or shouldn't stay together. That's non of my business.
But Marriage definitely can't be called pointless, that's a pretty big point you touched on.
by Apollo » Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:10 pm
StLGooner wrote:Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:
I agree with the above posters, it's pointless and only makes it harder to get out of a relationship.
That is kinda the point.
And it shouldn't be hard to get out of a relationship.
It isn't difficult getting out of a relationship, which again is one of the major reasons why marriage exists.
It is difficult getting out of a marriage It literally can cost thousands, and why some just end up staying together, which isn't a good thing.
Precisely
Im not talking about how anybody personally chooses to deal with their relationships, and what couples do and don't do, or how couples should choose to live their lives, or what reasons people should or shouldn't stay together. That's non of my business.
But Marriage definitely can't be called pointless, that's a pretty big point you touched on.
I think it can, because it isn't needed. It serves no purpose. You can live just as good of a life and have just as good of a relationship and family without ever getting married. There are certain things you are allowed to do that you can't without being married, but imo it's pretty pointless.
by StLGooner » Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:16 pm
Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:Apollo wrote:StLGooner wrote:
I agree with the above posters, it's pointless and only makes it harder to get out of a relationship.
That is kinda the point.
And it shouldn't be hard to get out of a relationship.
It isn't difficult getting out of a relationship, which again is one of the major reasons why marriage exists.
It is difficult getting out of a marriage It literally can cost thousands, and why some just end up staying together, which isn't a good thing.
Precisely
Im not talking about how anybody personally chooses to deal with their relationships, and what couples do and don't do, or how couples should choose to live their lives, or what reasons people should or shouldn't stay together. That's non of my business.
But Marriage definitely can't be called pointless, that's a pretty big point you touched on.
I think it can, because it isn't needed. It serves no purpose. You can live just as good of a life and have just as good of a relationship and family without ever getting married. There are certain things you are allowed to do that you can't without being married, but imo it's pretty pointless.
I understand.
You see no value in it, as you can live a good life without it etc. I don't disagree with this.
Its has its points, you just don't share those values, but those points do still exist though, agreeing or not agreeing with the "purpose" doesn't change the existence of the purpose..
by Héctor24 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:31 pm
by CukiZeGerman » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:44 pm
Héctor24 wrote:marriages aren't pointless the whole point of marriage is a commitment to stay together that is stronger than 'i promise' and that incurs more penalties than less official relationships.
Héctor24 wrote:The main issue now however is that only the man gets punished when either party wants to end a marriage.
Héctor24 wrote:Men that get married have to accept that a large portion of any money they will ever make could be taken from them by force and this could depend entirely on the womans feelings.
Héctor24 wrote:Using a womans feelings as the foundation of anything isnt likely to promote any kind of stability and it's no surprise that ever since laws moved towards that direction marriages have lost a lot of meaning,
by StLGooner » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:49 pm
Héctor24 wrote:marriages aren't pointless the whole point of marriage is a commitment to stay together that is stronger than 'i promise' and that incurs more penalties than less official relationships. The main issue now however is that only the man gets punished when either party wants to end a marriage. Hence why it's pretty much irrational for a man to even get married nowadays.
Men that get married have to accept that a large portion of any money they will ever make could be taken from them by force and this could depend entirely on the womans feelings. Using a womans feelings as the foundation of anything isnt likely to promote any kind of stability and it's no surprise that ever since laws moved towards that direction marriages have lost a lot of meaning,
by StLGooner » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:49 pm
CukiZeGerman wrote:Héctor24 wrote:marriages aren't pointless the whole point of marriage is a commitment to stay together that is stronger than 'i promise' and that incurs more penalties than less official relationships.
First part of this statement is bullshit.
I've seen people in healthy stable relationships that were more comitted to each other than some married couples.
2nd part of the statement is actually true.
And this was the point Apollo was talking about - the whole point of marriage compared to a live-in relationship nowadays is that it's not as simple to get out of a marriage as is to get out of a "normal" relationship.Héctor24 wrote:The main issue now however is that only the man gets punished when either party wants to end a marriage.
Bullshit.Héctor24 wrote:Men that get married have to accept that a large portion of any money they will ever make could be taken from them by force and this could depend entirely on the womans feelings.
Same point could be made from a different POV?Héctor24 wrote:Using a womans feelings as the foundation of anything isnt likely to promote any kind of stability and it's no surprise that ever since laws moved towards that direction marriages have lost a lot of meaning,
Marriage has lost a lot of meaning because people realised that a piece of paper won't change anything.
If I love my girlfriend, getting married with her will change absolutely ZILCH of my feelings for her. It could actually just cause more trouble.
by Héctor24 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:33 pm
CukiZeGerman wrote:First part of this statement is bullshit.
I've seen people in healthy stable relationships that were more comitted to each other than some married couples.
CukiZeGerman wrote:2nd part of the statement is actually true.
And this was the point Apollo was talking about - the whole point of marriage compared to a live-in relationship nowadays is that it's not as simple to get out of a marriage as is to get out of a "normal" relationship.
CukiZeGerman wrote:Same point could be made from a different POV
CukiZeGerman wrote:Marriage has lost a lot of meaning because people realised that a piece of paper won't change anything.
If I love my girlfriend, getting married with her will change absolutely ZILCH of my feelings for her. It could actually just cause more trouble.
by Héctor24 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:35 pm
StLGooner wrote:Héctor24 wrote:marriages aren't pointless the whole point of marriage is a commitment to stay together that is stronger than 'i promise' and that incurs more penalties than less official relationships. The main issue now however is that only the man gets punished when either party wants to end a marriage. Hence why it's pretty much irrational for a man to even get married nowadays.
Men that get married have to accept that a large portion of any money they will ever make could be taken from them by force and this could depend entirely on the womans feelings. Using a womans feelings as the foundation of anything isnt likely to promote any kind of stability and it's no surprise that ever since laws moved towards that direction marriages have lost a lot of meaning,
You just kind of contradicted yourself.
by StLGooner » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:43 pm
Héctor24 wrote:StLGooner wrote:Héctor24 wrote:marriages aren't pointless the whole point of marriage is a commitment to stay together that is stronger than 'i promise' and that incurs more penalties than less official relationships. The main issue now however is that only the man gets punished when either party wants to end a marriage. Hence why it's pretty much irrational for a man to even get married nowadays.
Men that get married have to accept that a large portion of any money they will ever make could be taken from them by force and this could depend entirely on the womans feelings. Using a womans feelings as the foundation of anything isnt likely to promote any kind of stability and it's no surprise that ever since laws moved towards that direction marriages have lost a lot of meaning,
You just kind of contradicted yourself.
where's the contadiction?
i didnt realise men were the only ones involved im marriages.
by D23 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:52 pm