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Re: Religion and Oppression (ft. the Catholic Church)

Postby Maradonna » Thu May 28, 2015 10:00 pm

Brandon wrote:
Maradonaitis wrote:you should not read a scripture as a fundamentalist, there are more passages about love than hate, again nitpicking make us just as sophisticated as the taliban's.


So if I adopt 10 refugee children but murder 7 people, it's all fine and dandy because I showed more love than hate?

no, im saying that you are defined by acts, not by what you believe.
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Re: Religion and Oppression (ft. the Catholic Church)

Postby Angelito » Fri May 29, 2015 10:05 am

We're getting some fine examples of what I stated earlier in this thread.

Every religion strives to teach tolerance and empathy. Most religions tell you that you have freewill and it's what you decide based on that freewill that determines the course of action. The Principle of Self Determinism is solely based on how we are not enslaved to eventuality and what we make of ourselves is a conscious choice.

But the question is - where do religions falter? The concept of good and evil is a start. Secondly, the notion that there's an outright concept of truth is another misleading and dangerous perception. More importantly, not understanding humans and their nature is the biggest fault behind religion.

In general life, you observe something and lay out rules. What religions have done is laid out rules without observing the physical elements in humans. People aren't all mental. People aren't always rational. Lack of rationality is in built in people. If we were all rational, we wouldn't be so loving, sacrificing, and empathetic. Not everybody is, but it's the potential in us to think about others enables us to be the highest form of consciousness present in this planet.

The religious terrorists are prime examples of this. They're not concerned with the self. They've been ingrained with emotions of sacrifice and love. Sure, they channel it in a misinterpreted manner, but the innate ability to see beyond oneself is present and apparent. That's the potential of humans. We're so divine that we can forget about ourselves and work towards the betterment of society. Aren't the religious terrorists doing so? Even if they have a misguided approach to what is right and wrong, they're sacrificing their life for what they believe in - for their people, and for the betterment - according to them - of the world.

How has religion helped them? Well, they've used that potential of humans to push forward their agendas. Every religion dies after its propagator passes away. The same happened with Jesus and Mohammad. They had a different vision, a different way of seeing things, but as with conscious people - they were misunderstood and what was once a beautiful revelation turned into an ugly dogma that is filled with necrotic rules.

When you look at Eastern traditions - Taoism, Zen, Vedanta, etc. - they share the wonderful message of knowledge vs. lack thereof. The term knowledge itself is misleading, but I'm using it here to simplify a concept of complete awareness where you realize the macrocosmic reality of this universe and our place in it as microcosmic realities manifest in this otherwise latent powerhouse of energy.

Good and evil all started from a human's desire to tell stories and draw moral guidelines. Abrahamic religions illustrate good vs. evil by luring people with the concept of heaven and hell. In its basest self, if you act according to the moral guidelines presented in religious scriptures - you will attain heaven after death and if you live a life filled with vices, you will attain further life in hell. Such a simplistic description doesn't take into account what spirituality does - why people act in a certain why?

Spirituality suggests lack of knowledge. You're so driven by passion that you don't, yet, have the grasp of what is right and what is wrong. On another level, right and wrong merge into one because nothing is permanent, concrete. But at our level, right and wrong could be anything from killing somebody to lying.

Then, why is it that religion has created more problems than solved them?

Well, the answer is simple - religion has always emphasized on a path you undertake to reach the ultimate goal of humankind. They promote suppression and repression over realization and acceptance. The confession was created so people confess to their sins, or actions interpreted as sins, and live without guilt, whilst learning from that experience. Instead, religions have driven home such staunch and totalitarian ideas, people have turned into paranoid, schizophrenic beings because almost every action one wishes to undertake, apart from 5% of the totality of human experiences, are labeled as sins/wrong doings by religions scriptures.

Look at the 7 sins in context. With the development of human psychology, greed/selfishness is something that has its genetic roots to our ancient forefathers, during an era where gathering and accumulation was a must, because of the bare nature of the world. During the hunting and gathering age, one had to gather as much as they could, as long as it remained consumable, because Nature was unpredictable and there were no technologies that are present today. A catastrophe could strike and swarms of people could die in hunger even if they managed to survive in the catastrophe.

That's one example of how the habit of being self-centered originated. It's not pretty, but an explanation to how we function - whether we're loving or hating - goes back not only to our conditioning as children, but also to our genes. When somebody has good physical features, we praise their healthy genes, but when somebody as psychopathic tendencies, we blame the person and if we're more liberal, their parents. We don't look into circumstances and genetics when it's proven that psychological disorders have as much a genetic make-up as they have social conditionings instigating a person from rationality to illusion of rationality.

Regardless, to understand the Catholic Church and its domination in context we have to go back to the Age of Enlightenment. It's the era that brought forth - for the first time in history - that humans are conscious beings and reasoning is the way forward - not authorities, scriptures, and religions. It was the fall of the metaphysical era and rise of the rational era.

For a period in history, we needed metaphysics to answer grand questions. We hadn't reached that stage of knowledge where we could dig deep into secrets without resorting to a "higher power." In that sense, the Hindus were far ahead than the rest of the world because the evolutionary cycle of the universe that we know today, even if it's just a tiny bit, is closest to the Vedas of the Hindus than any other scripture in the world. However, that's another topic because Hinduism also shunned the original Vedic concepts to adopt a totalitarian approach that is closer to blind superstition than to science, especially after the fall of the Vedic Age and during the Middle Ages.

Now, when Kant, Spinoza, Descartes, etc., came to the fore - they presented their version of what is true, what is logical, and what is - yes - rational. They denounced ancient order of religious blindness and accepted a more liberal approach, even if they were conservative in their own ways.

Ultimately, religion propagates humans to go back to its roots. To have child-like innocence and curiosity and to observe the world and events as a child would - without the filtrations of society. But what approach did they take? Yes, that's right - they favored suppression over realization. Instead of educating you naturally, they ordered you to follow dogmas, to repress your natural tendencies, and to live a life of a split person. Ever wondered why psychological disorders, insomnia, depression, etc. is more prevalent in richer societies than in the poorest countries of the world? Because they're not concerned with the grand theories when the main problem of filling their stomach and taking care of their families runs the roost. Yet, once we evolve out of that phase - into religion and a coded way of life - we start developing these disorders because humans are product of biological functioning as much as we are mental creatures. We have the potential to differentiate and that's why we're highest in the chain of evolution, but that doesn't mean we're not bound to the boundaries set by this physical body...

And, this brings me to the concept of Soul. In religions where souls are emphasized over body, where experiences govern life than physical body, it becomes rather easy to understand why we act in certain ways. In Abrahamic religions, where the soul goes to heaven/hell after death, they give you this 1-lifetime to attain "enlightenment" and those who do so enjoy in heaven and those who don't suffer in hell. In Buddhism, the whole concept is debunked because there is no "I." There is no "myself," for I am an ever-changing reality. And what I believe in today, what I am today - I won't be tomorrow, I won't believe in tomorrow, so the only way forward is to focus on the here and now, on what I can do at this moment to take me further to understanding and knowledge.

People need to understand that there's a huge difference between spirituality and religion. The spiritual way is the way forward, but religions are only an initiation into something far bigger and grander than what we know today. In mundane terms, religion is pre-primary education. You may need it, but it's not the end and if you wish to evolve, you have to go further than that - to primary school, elementary, high school, college, and further. This is just an example.

Religion, in itself, is loopy and even if the intention isn't to teach and promote hatred; it's built in such a way that it does end up teaching hatred and discrimination. The whole concept is flawed. Punishing is the mainstay of religion in its naked form. Reward is the boon you will get for obliging. When religion promotes reward and punishment, we don't have to wonder why there are controversies surrounding religions. Religion isn't supposed to hate, to separate. If you're ignorant, it's supposed to show you light and teach you.

This is where the Theory of Karma comes from. This is where we can say every action has an equal and opposite reaction. No God or no form of judgment day promotes reward and punishment. People have misinterpreted religion so much, but that's a consequence of believing in something that is so flawed, discriminative, and unscientific.

Remember, no religion has ever cured small pox. Science did. It's one example of freewill and a small peak into our potentials to transcend religion and become one with the Super Soul/Mother Nature - because together with Nature, we can help everybody - against Nature/limitations of the human body; we become enslaved to the whole concept that was supposed to liberate us.

I know this was rather long, but when you try to touch so many things in one tiny post - it kinda so happens. ;)
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Re: Religion and Oppression (ft. the Catholic Church)

Postby StLGooner » Fri May 29, 2015 1:22 pm

Maradonaitis wrote:
Brandon wrote:
Maradonaitis wrote:you should not read a scripture as a fundamentalist, there are more passages about love than hate, again nitpicking make us just as sophisticated as the taliban's.


So if I adopt 10 refugee children but murder 7 people, it's all fine and dandy because I showed more love than hate?

no, im saying that you are defined by acts, not by what you believe.



People act sometimes by what they believe though. You should know this first hand as a gay person. I would be willing to bet that the hatred for gays wouldn't be half of what it is if it didn't say negative things about gay people in the bible, and other religious texts, millions use that as a justification for bigotry.
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Re: Religion and Oppression (ft. the Catholic Church)

Postby StLGooner » Fri May 29, 2015 2:31 pm

Angelito wrote:We're getting some fine examples of what I stated earlier in this thread.

Every religion strives to teach tolerance and empathy. Most religions tell you that you have freewill and it's what you decide based on that freewill that determines the course of action. The Principle of Self Determinism is solely based on how we are not enslaved to eventuality and what we make of ourselves is a conscious choice.

But the question is - where do religions falter? The concept of good and evil is a start. Secondly, the notion that there's an outright concept of truth is another misleading and dangerous perception. More importantly, not understanding humans and their nature is the biggest fault behind religion.

In general life, you observe something and lay out rules. What religions have done is laid out rules without observing the physical elements in humans. People aren't all mental. People aren't always rational. Lack of rationality is in built in people. If we were all rational, we wouldn't be so loving, sacrificing, and empathetic. Not everybody is, but it's the potential in us to think about others enables us to be the highest form of consciousness present in this planet.

The religious terrorists are prime examples of this. They're not concerned with the self. They've been ingrained with emotions of sacrifice and love. Sure, they channel it in a misinterpreted manner, but the innate ability to see beyond oneself is present and apparent. That's the potential of humans. We're so divine that we can forget about ourselves and work towards the betterment of society. Aren't the religious terrorists doing so? Even if they have a misguided approach to what is right and wrong, they're sacrificing their life for what they believe in - for their people, and for the betterment - according to them - of the world.

How has religion helped them? Well, they've used that potential of humans to push forward their agendas. Every religion dies after its propagator passes away. The same happened with Jesus and Mohammad. They had a different vision, a different way of seeing things, but as with conscious people - they were misunderstood and what was once a beautiful revelation turned into an ugly dogma that is filled with necrotic rules.

When you look at Eastern traditions - Taoism, Zen, Vedanta, etc. - they share the wonderful message of knowledge vs. lack thereof. The term knowledge itself is misleading, but I'm using it here to simplify a concept of complete awareness where you realize the macrocosmic reality of this universe and our place in it as microcosmic realities manifest in this otherwise latent powerhouse of energy.

Good and evil all started from a human's desire to tell stories and draw moral guidelines. Abrahamic religions illustrate good vs. evil by luring people with the concept of heaven and hell. In its basest self, if you act according to the moral guidelines presented in religious scriptures - you will attain heaven after death and if you live a life filled with vices, you will attain further life in hell. Such a simplistic description doesn't take into account what spirituality does - why people act in a certain why?

Spirituality suggests lack of knowledge. You're so driven by passion that you don't, yet, have the grasp of what is right and what is wrong. On another level, right and wrong merge into one because nothing is permanent, concrete. But at our level, right and wrong could be anything from killing somebody to lying.

Then, why is it that religion has created more problems than solved them?

Well, the answer is simple - religion has always emphasized on a path you undertake to reach the ultimate goal of humankind. They promote suppression and repression over realization and acceptance. The confession was created so people confess to their sins, or actions interpreted as sins, and live without guilt, whilst learning from that experience. Instead, religions have driven home such staunch and totalitarian ideas, people have turned into paranoid, schizophrenic beings because almost every action one wishes to undertake, apart from 5% of the totality of human experiences, are labeled as sins/wrong doings by religions scriptures.

Look at the 7 sins in context. With the development of human psychology, greed/selfishness is something that has its genetic roots to our ancient forefathers, during an era where gathering and accumulation was a must, because of the bare nature of the world. During the hunting and gathering age, one had to gather as much as they could, as long as it remained consumable, because Nature was unpredictable and there were no technologies that are present today. A catastrophe could strike and swarms of people could die in hunger even if they managed to survive in the catastrophe.

That's one example of how the habit of being self-centered originated. It's not pretty, but an explanation to how we function - whether we're loving or hating - goes back not only to our conditioning as children, but also to our genes. When somebody has good physical features, we praise their healthy genes, but when somebody as psychopathic tendencies, we blame the person and if we're more liberal, their parents. We don't look into circumstances and genetics when it's proven that psychological disorders have as much a genetic make-up as they have social conditionings instigating a person from rationality to illusion of rationality.

Regardless, to understand the Catholic Church and its domination in context we have to go back to the Age of Enlightenment. It's the era that brought forth - for the first time in history - that humans are conscious beings and reasoning is the way forward - not authorities, scriptures, and religions. It was the fall of the metaphysical era and rise of the rational era.

For a period in history, we needed metaphysics to answer grand questions. We hadn't reached that stage of knowledge where we could dig deep into secrets without resorting to a "higher power." In that sense, the Hindus were far ahead than the rest of the world because the evolutionary cycle of the universe that we know today, even if it's just a tiny bit, is closest to the Vedas of the Hindus than any other scripture in the world. However, that's another topic because Hinduism also shunned the original Vedic concepts to adopt a totalitarian approach that is closer to blind superstition than to science, especially after the fall of the Vedic Age and during the Middle Ages.

Now, when Kant, Spinoza, Descartes, etc., came to the fore - they presented their version of what is true, what is logical, and what is - yes - rational. They denounced ancient order of religious blindness and accepted a more liberal approach, even if they were conservative in their own ways.

Ultimately, religion propagates humans to go back to its roots. To have child-like innocence and curiosity and to observe the world and events as a child would - without the filtrations of society. But what approach did they take? Yes, that's right - they favored suppression over realization. Instead of educating you naturally, they ordered you to follow dogmas, to repress your natural tendencies, and to live a life of a split person. Ever wondered why psychological disorders, insomnia, depression, etc. is more prevalent in richer societies than in the poorest countries of the world? Because they're not concerned with the grand theories when the main problem of filling their stomach and taking care of their families runs the roost. Yet, once we evolve out of that phase - into religion and a coded way of life - we start developing these disorders because humans are product of biological functioning as much as we are mental creatures. We have the potential to differentiate and that's why we're highest in the chain of evolution, but that doesn't mean we're not bound to the boundaries set by this physical body...

And, this brings me to the concept of Soul. In religions where souls are emphasized over body, where experiences govern life than physical body, it becomes rather easy to understand why we act in certain ways. In Abrahamic religions, where the soul goes to heaven/hell after death, they give you this 1-lifetime to attain "enlightenment" and those who do so enjoy in heaven and those who don't suffer in hell. In Buddhism, the whole concept is debunked because there is no "I." There is no "myself," for I am an ever-changing reality. And what I believe in today, what I am today - I won't be tomorrow, I won't believe in tomorrow, so the only way forward is to focus on the here and now, on what I can do at this moment to take me further to understanding and knowledge.

People need to understand that there's a huge difference between spirituality and religion. The spiritual way is the way forward, but religions are only an initiation into something far bigger and grander than what we know today. In mundane terms, religion is pre-primary education. You may need it, but it's not the end and if you wish to evolve, you have to go further than that - to primary school, elementary, high school, college, and further. This is just an example.

Religion, in itself, is loopy and even if the intention isn't to teach and promote hatred; it's built in such a way that it does end up teaching hatred and discrimination. The whole concept is flawed. Punishing is the mainstay of religion in its naked form. Reward is the boon you will get for obliging. When religion promotes reward and punishment, we don't have to wonder why there are controversies surrounding religions. Religion isn't supposed to hate, to separate. If you're ignorant, it's supposed to show you light and teach you.

This is where the Theory of Karma comes from. This is where we can say every action has an equal and opposite reaction. No God or no form of judgment day promotes reward and punishment. People have misinterpreted religion so much, but that's a consequence of believing in something that is so flawed, discriminative, and unscientific.

Remember, no religion has ever cured small pox. Science did. It's one example of freewill and a small peak into our potentials to transcend religion and become one with the Super Soul/Mother Nature - because together with Nature, we can help everybody - against Nature/limitations of the human body; we become enslaved to the whole concept that was supposed to liberate us.

I know this was rather long, but when you try to touch so many things in one tiny post - it kinda so happens. ;)



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Re: Religion and Oppression (ft. the Catholic Church)

Postby Zenith » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:53 am

Brilliant post Angelito :clap:
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Re: Religion and Oppression (ft. the Catholic Church)

Postby Maradonna » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:40 pm

lol
stop reading at Spirituality suggests lack of knowledge.
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Re: Religion and Oppression (ft. the Catholic Church)

Postby Jackson » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:42 am

'Spirituality' is a complete misnomer - it's just the entirely human rush you get from sex etc, ie Alexis stunner at Wemberlee.
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Re: Religion and Oppression (ft. the Catholic Church)

Postby Angelito » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:33 am

Jackson wrote:'Spirituality' is a complete misnomer - it's just the entirely human rush you get from sex etc, ie Alexis stunner at Wemberlee.


Depends where you come from. Western Philosophy/Theology has a completely different interpretation of spirituality as opposed to Eastern Philosophy/Theology.
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Re: Religion and Oppression (ft. the Catholic Church)

Postby Cripps » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:15 pm

Angelito wrote:We're getting some fine examples of what I stated earlier in this thread.

Every religion strives to teach tolerance and empathy. Most religions tell you that you have freewill and it's what you decide based on that freewill that determines the course of action. The Principle of Self Determinism is solely based on how we are not enslaved to eventuality and what we make of ourselves is a conscious choice.

But the question is - where do religions falter? The concept of good and evil is a start. Secondly, the notion that there's an outright concept of truth is another misleading and dangerous perception. More importantly, not understanding humans and their nature is the biggest fault behind religion.

In general life, you observe something and lay out rules. What religions have done is laid out rules without observing the physical elements in humans. People aren't all mental. People aren't always rational. Lack of rationality is in built in people. If we were all rational, we wouldn't be so loving, sacrificing, and empathetic. Not everybody is, but it's the potential in us to think about others enables us to be the highest form of consciousness present in this planet.

The religious terrorists are prime examples of this. They're not concerned with the self. They've been ingrained with emotions of sacrifice and love. Sure, they channel it in a misinterpreted manner, but the innate ability to see beyond oneself is present and apparent. That's the potential of humans. We're so divine that we can forget about ourselves and work towards the betterment of society. Aren't the religious terrorists doing so? Even if they have a misguided approach to what is right and wrong, they're sacrificing their life for what they believe in - for their people, and for the betterment - according to them - of the world.

How has religion helped them? Well, they've used that potential of humans to push forward their agendas. Every religion dies after its propagator passes away. The same happened with Jesus and Mohammad. They had a different vision, a different way of seeing things, but as with conscious people - they were misunderstood and what was once a beautiful revelation turned into an ugly dogma that is filled with necrotic rules.

When you look at Eastern traditions - Taoism, Zen, Vedanta, etc. - they share the wonderful message of knowledge vs. lack thereof. The term knowledge itself is misleading, but I'm using it here to simplify a concept of complete awareness where you realize the macrocosmic reality of this universe and our place in it as microcosmic realities manifest in this otherwise latent powerhouse of energy.

Good and evil all started from a human's desire to tell stories and draw moral guidelines. Abrahamic religions illustrate good vs. evil by luring people with the concept of heaven and hell. In its basest self, if you act according to the moral guidelines presented in religious scriptures - you will attain heaven after death and if you live a life filled with vices, you will attain further life in hell. Such a simplistic description doesn't take into account what spirituality does - why people act in a certain why?

Spirituality suggests lack of knowledge. You're so driven by passion that you don't, yet, have the grasp of what is right and what is wrong. On another level, right and wrong merge into one because nothing is permanent, concrete. But at our level, right and wrong could be anything from killing somebody to lying.

Then, why is it that religion has created more problems than solved them?

Well, the answer is simple - religion has always emphasized on a path you undertake to reach the ultimate goal of humankind. They promote suppression and repression over realization and acceptance. The confession was created so people confess to their sins, or actions interpreted as sins, and live without guilt, whilst learning from that experience. Instead, religions have driven home such staunch and totalitarian ideas, people have turned into paranoid, schizophrenic beings because almost every action one wishes to undertake, apart from 5% of the totality of human experiences, are labeled as sins/wrong doings by religions scriptures.

Look at the 7 sins in context. With the development of human psychology, greed/selfishness is something that has its genetic roots to our ancient forefathers, during an era where gathering and accumulation was a must, because of the bare nature of the world. During the hunting and gathering age, one had to gather as much as they could, as long as it remained consumable, because Nature was unpredictable and there were no technologies that are present today. A catastrophe could strike and swarms of people could die in hunger even if they managed to survive in the catastrophe.

That's one example of how the habit of being self-centered originated. It's not pretty, but an explanation to how we function - whether we're loving or hating - goes back not only to our conditioning as children, but also to our genes. When somebody has good physical features, we praise their healthy genes, but when somebody as psychopathic tendencies, we blame the person and if we're more liberal, their parents. We don't look into circumstances and genetics when it's proven that psychological disorders have as much a genetic make-up as they have social conditionings instigating a person from rationality to illusion of rationality.

Regardless, to understand the Catholic Church and its domination in context we have to go back to the Age of Enlightenment. It's the era that brought forth - for the first time in history - that humans are conscious beings and reasoning is the way forward - not authorities, scriptures, and religions. It was the fall of the metaphysical era and rise of the rational era.

For a period in history, we needed metaphysics to answer grand questions. We hadn't reached that stage of knowledge where we could dig deep into secrets without resorting to a "higher power." In that sense, the Hindus were far ahead than the rest of the world because the evolutionary cycle of the universe that we know today, even if it's just a tiny bit, is closest to the Vedas of the Hindus than any other scripture in the world. However, that's another topic because Hinduism also shunned the original Vedic concepts to adopt a totalitarian approach that is closer to blind superstition than to science, especially after the fall of the Vedic Age and during the Middle Ages.

Now, when Kant, Spinoza, Descartes, etc., came to the fore - they presented their version of what is true, what is logical, and what is - yes - rational. They denounced ancient order of religious blindness and accepted a more liberal approach, even if they were conservative in their own ways.

Ultimately, religion propagates humans to go back to its roots. To have child-like innocence and curiosity and to observe the world and events as a child would - without the filtrations of society. But what approach did they take? Yes, that's right - they favored suppression over realization. Instead of educating you naturally, they ordered you to follow dogmas, to repress your natural tendencies, and to live a life of a split person. Ever wondered why psychological disorders, insomnia, depression, etc. is more prevalent in richer societies than in the poorest countries of the world? Because they're not concerned with the grand theories when the main problem of filling their stomach and taking care of their families runs the roost. Yet, once we evolve out of that phase - into religion and a coded way of life - we start developing these disorders because humans are product of biological functioning as much as we are mental creatures. We have the potential to differentiate and that's why we're highest in the chain of evolution, but that doesn't mean we're not bound to the boundaries set by this physical body...

And, this brings me to the concept of Soul. In religions where souls are emphasized over body, where experiences govern life than physical body, it becomes rather easy to understand why we act in certain ways. In Abrahamic religions, where the soul goes to heaven/hell after death, they give you this 1-lifetime to attain "enlightenment" and those who do so enjoy in heaven and those who don't suffer in hell. In Buddhism, the whole concept is debunked because there is no "I." There is no "myself," for I am an ever-changing reality. And what I believe in today, what I am today - I won't be tomorrow, I won't believe in tomorrow, so the only way forward is to focus on the here and now, on what I can do at this moment to take me further to understanding and knowledge.

People need to understand that there's a huge difference between spirituality and religion. The spiritual way is the way forward, but religions are only an initiation into something far bigger and grander than what we know today. In mundane terms, religion is pre-primary education. You may need it, but it's not the end and if you wish to evolve, you have to go further than that - to primary school, elementary, high school, college, and further. This is just an example.

Religion, in itself, is loopy and even if the intention isn't to teach and promote hatred; it's built in such a way that it does end up teaching hatred and discrimination. The whole concept is flawed. Punishing is the mainstay of religion in its naked form. Reward is the boon you will get for obliging. When religion promotes reward and punishment, we don't have to wonder why there are controversies surrounding religions. Religion isn't supposed to hate, to separate. If you're ignorant, it's supposed to show you light and teach you.

This is where the Theory of Karma comes from. This is where we can say every action has an equal and opposite reaction. No God or no form of judgment day promotes reward and punishment. People have misinterpreted religion so much, but that's a consequence of believing in something that is so flawed, discriminative, and unscientific.

Remember, no religion has ever cured small pox. Science did. It's one example of freewill and a small peak into our potentials to transcend religion and become one with the Super Soul/Mother Nature - because together with Nature, we can help everybody - against Nature/limitations of the human body; we become enslaved to the whole concept that was supposed to liberate us.

I know this was rather long, but when you try to touch so many things in one tiny post - it kinda so happens. ;)


I agree with all of that bar the 7th paragraph.
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