Re: Religion and Oppression (ft. the Catholic Church)
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:09 pm
Maradonaitis wrote:StLGooner wrote:Maradonaitis wrote:StLGooner wrote:Maradonaitis wrote:StLGooner wrote:Maradonaitis wrote:Angelito wrote:Religion is against life and living.
Wow, how sophisticated.
lol
you have the theological understanding of a 11 years old.
its like when a kid tries to explain the big bang.
or a fox news reporter trying to explain the "muslim world" (wherever that phrase means)
sad when people talk about what they dont understand.
How would you even know what he does or doesn't understand? You took a 6 word sentence and assumed so much about him from that, and then tried to insult him. That's what I would call sad.
because that is a terrible phrase that is brutally ignorant. When someone said something racist i stand up and say something about it, when someone said something as offending as that, i stand up and say something about it.
we should be all alarmed by a fascist statement.
it is ignorant, its like listening to neuroscientists talk about religion (Sam Harris), it's like Darwin Evolutionists talking about race and measuring heads at the beginning of the XX century. All behind a "secular" oratory that embellish a very conservative and unsophisticated full of hate way of thinking.
It's awful. Demining and ignorant.
So why is it that under the name of religion or God, people are allowed to be "racist, and ignorant", and very hateful, but when people say the same about religion in general it's not ok. Kind of a double standard isn't it? Religion shouldn't be protected from it's hypocritical bigotry. And calling it out and making religion accountable for it's horrible actions is something that is needed.
im not a religious person, i dont justify hate, period.
and religion dont kill, people does.
religion its just a signpost, a language, a complexity of symbols and metaphors to explain what it's unexplainable, the divine experience. Language and words don't kill people, people kill people.
What angelito said is ignorant a fascist and it should not be tolerated.
I will kindly disagree. Yes, it is people that do the killing, but you would have to have lived under a rock your entire life if you don't think that religion influences people to do very evil things. Yes, the moderate everyday person that believes in a God in one sense or another is a very good person most likely, probably like you and I. But religion definitely deserves it's criticism. It states that people who don't follow it or believe in it deserve a lake of fire for eternity. It endorses slavery, oppresses women, and obviously thinks gay people are less than human. It is very anti-life and living in my opinion, and Anglito has every right to say that.
because KKK exist, white people is racist.
Generalization its terrible when you talk about social issues. Academics all over the world are appalled by the way religion its treated. We fear what we dont know.
Debt its much of a problem than religion, Isis Palestina and Israel conflicts are about Territory and tribal situations, not about religion. Religion it is used as a tool to explain tribal, territorial and economical valid and invalid grievances, Of course people on both sides have a very cosmic view of that territory and that conflict, but, are we, westernized secular humans going to do the same? are we going to talk about it with a cosmic magical view, or are we going to talk about it as it is, a territorial economical tribal conflict. we should talk about it as what it is.
this analysis applies to every single war in the name of god that was in place through history.
Religion its just a language, i can say that i kill in the name of god, democracy, freedom, etc. its not about the language it's about the acts, and im gay btw, so getting to this place was extremadly hard for me, especially coming from a very religious country and background. i learned, by studying, to understand religion for what it is.
I know you're gay, I remember you telling me. I too have read about religion and studied it a bit, not in school but on my own. And I'm not generalizing, I'm talking of the 3 main religions of the world, and how they scream for equality and love, but underneath it all promote bigotry and hatred. Doesn't mean I accuse every religious person of this, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy and double standard. I understand that religions can be interpreted and taken anyway you want to take it, which in itself is a bit hypocritical. Cause lets be honest, very few religious people follow everything their holy books teach, they cherry pick the parts they like and ignore the parts they don't. To me you either believe and follow all of it, or none at all. Then they use those beliefs to mask their hatred and bigotry. Again, not saying every person, but very many do.