UK European Union in / out referendum

[DiamondGooner]

No one needs to fricking satisfy all parties, just the majority of Parliament. Hardly impossible, no one's going to be stupid enough to stand in the way of Article 50 except the Lib Dems with their 8 seats.

The details should be voted on in parliament

What details?

What if May wants no Freedom of movement but Parliament evidently do?

What if both parties want access to the single market, agree on it but then the EU won't give us access, or even worse, the EU are saying they won't even discuss it until we enact article 50 so no1 what if they don't agree? and no2 even if they agree she still can't give any guarantees because the EU has a say, hence me saying this is not a possible option.

Quite frankly I'm done with this debate till further events have taken place because you guys (Remainers) have clearly demonstrated your limited intelligence (probably caused by your lack of will to think for yourselves without the EU wiping your arses) can't seem to grasp this most basic of concepts.

I find your stupidity staggering tbf, its not like this hasn't been spelled out for you again and again over the last few pages.

See you on the other side of the Court case.

[GoonerAlexandre]

Your stupidity is even more staggering. If May can decide something based on the data available, so can Parliament. Unlike in your limited world, people can come to a consensus to make a decision, and Parliament is not completely stupid.

If Parliament wants something and the EU doesn't, then the Parliament can reconsider. If May wants something and Parliament something else, then of course, the sovereignty of Parliament will have the final say.

Like Cameron wanted war in Syria but Parliament stopped him

[UFGN]

No one needs to fricking satisfy all parties, just the majority of Parliament. Hardly impossible, no one's going to be stupid enough to stand in the way of Article 50 except the Lib Dems with their 8 seats.

The details should be voted on in parliament

What details?

What if May wants no Freedom of movement but Parliament evidently do?

What if both parties want access to the single market, agree on it but then the EU won't give us access, or even worse, the EU are saying they won't even discuss it until we enact article 50 so no1 what if they don't agree? and no2 even if they agree she still can't give any guarantees because the EU has a say, hence me saying this is not a possible option.

Quite frankly I'm done with this debate till further events have taken place because you guys (Remainers) have clearly demonstrated your limited intelligence (probably caused by your lack of will to think for yourselves without the EU wiping your arses) can't seem to grasp this most basic of concepts.

I find your stupidity staggering tbf, its not like this hasn't been spelled out for you again and again over the last few pages.

See you on the other side of the Court case.

Once again, this is a pile of vomit which you made, and now you're crying because its difficult to clear up.

If the decision is upheld then article 50 will be voted on but more importantly a precedent will have been set that, after article 50 is enacted, parliament must be involved in decision making. If that causes further unforseen crisies, for example the two year deadline overrunning and that causing a row, then once again.... Its your mess. Don't blame anyone else.

If the ruling is overturned then we face our entire relationship with Europe being decided in a hurry by a tiny group of tory ministers who don't have the necessary experience in relevant fields and certainly don't share one crumb of political neutrality between them. Disgraceful.

[DiamondGooner]

Your stupidity is even more staggering. If May can decide something based on the data available, so can Parliament. Unlike in your limited world, people can come to a consensus to make a decision, and Parliament is not completely stupid.

If Parliament wants something and the EU doesn't, then the Parliament can reconsider. If May wants something and Parliament something else, then of course, the sovereignty of Parliament will have the final say.

Like Cameron wanted war in Syria but Parliament stopped him

The sovereignty of Parliament will have the final say ........ and there in lies the problem.

This was a decision put to the people and the people decided out, it is not up to parliament to stand in the way of that, if they want changes then they need to get themselves elected to Government as they will now have the power to enact change.

Once article 50 is triggered they have 2 years to quibble over what deal we're asking for, they cannot hold the public order to ransom just so some Europhiles get it their way, enact article 50 then all cards MP's, Theresa May, the EU are on the table, not before, and that's the EU saying that not me.

Parliament as do you need to get it through their thick heads, they work for us.

[UFGN]

Your stupidity is even more staggering. If May can decide something based on the data available, so can Parliament. Unlike in your limited world, people can come to a consensus to make a decision, and Parliament is not completely stupid.

If Parliament wants something and the EU doesn't, then the Parliament can reconsider. If May wants something and Parliament something else, then of course, the sovereignty of Parliament will have the final say.

Like Cameron wanted war in Syria but Parliament stopped him

The sovereignty of Parliament will have the final say ........ and there in lies the problem.

This was a decision put to the people and the people decided out, it is not up to parliament to stand in the way of that, if they want changes then they need to get themselves elected to Government as they will now have the power to enact change.

Once article 50 is triggered they have 2 years to quibble over what deal we're asking for, they cannot hold the public order to ransom just so some Europhiles get it their way, enact article 50 then all cards MP's, Theresa May, the EU are on the table, not before, and that's the EU saying that not me.

Parliament as do you need to get it through their thick heads, they work for us.

So now it suits you, we're back to "just vote them out"

Unbelievable

[GoonerAlexandre]

Weird how a few people who resented comparisons with Trump are celebrating his win in other threads.

Oh well, this is just a lesson to people to not look after the old. They are only trouble

[DiamondGooner]

Weird how a few people who resented comparisons with Trump are celebrating his win in other threads.

Oh well, this is just a lesson to people to not look after the old. They are only trouble

People are celebrating the bantz and the fact that Trump is another punch in the face for the Liberal Elites ........ doesn't mean we agree with him or even care, this is England, Trump is an American issue.

Also your comment on the elderly is despicable.

[GoonerAlexandre]

They gave us BREXIT, took all the homes and left us with all the debt.

[UFGN]

They gave us BREXIT, took all the homes and left us with all the debt.

Screach like pigs on fire if you suggest that maybe their pensions should be cut

(Even though the people paying for their pension will get nothing like the same entitlement when they retire)

[Callum]

With the pound absolutely falling through the floor, you'd think exports would at least be on the up. Turns out we don't even have that silver lining. Exports fell by 200m in the month of September.

[Yago]

Weird how a few people who resented comparisons with Trump are celebrating his win in other threads.

Oh well, this is just a lesson to people to not look after the old. They are only trouble

People are celebrating the bantz and the fact that Trump is another punch in the face for the Liberal Elites ........ doesn't mean we agree with him or even care, this is England, Trump is an American issue.

Also your comment on the elderly is despicable.

I despise that "sticking it to the elite" sentiment everyone seems to love.
1) Trump won more among the rich than among the poor.
2) It's moronic. It's a way for simple men to blame everything on "the elite" while absolving themselves of any responsibility, even when they are at least as much to blame. To quote the beloved Terry Pratchett:

It was much better to imagine men in some smokey room somewhere, made mad and cynical by privilege and power, plotting over brandy. You had to cling to this sort of image, because if you didn’t then you might have to face the fact that bad things happened because ordinary people, the kind who brushed the dog and told the children bed time stories, were capable of then going out and doing horrible things to other ordinary people. It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was Us, then what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

[Zedie]

With the pound absolutely falling through the floor, you'd think exports would at least be on the up. Turns out we don't even have that silver lining. Exports fell by 200m in the month of September.

Funny how people like Schland, diamond and rowdy were pointing out how good that was for the 30% of our gdp that would benefit as manufacturers. I suppose these numbers arent real, but actually project fear and how this is somehow a good thing for the economy even though our gdp is 70 services which is also hurting right now massively.

[Zedie]

Weird how a few people who resented comparisons with Trump are celebrating his win in other threads.

Oh well, this is just a lesson to people to not look after the old. They are only trouble

People are celebrating the bantz and the fact that Trump is another punch in the face for the Liberal Elites ........ doesn't mean we agree with him or even care, this is England, Trump is an American issue.

Also your comment on the elderly is despicable.

Instead of apparent working class people celebrating for the 'bantz' they should really be looking at the consequences of their actions ffs.

Namely that the new administration will have a significant number of people that actually don't believe in evolution.

Trump is an American issue? Ffs, you do understand that America is at the heart of global economy and whatever happens to them has ramifications worldwide.

Just think back to the credit crunch when the arse fell out of their housing market and financial services industry and exactly what effect that had on the UK.

People celebrating are literally celebrating handing power to the outer right Conservative regressives who do not give a shit about poor people ffs.

[UFGN]

Weird how a few people who resented comparisons with Trump are celebrating his win in other threads.

Oh well, this is just a lesson to people to not look after the old. They are only trouble

People are celebrating the bantz and the fact that Trump is another punch in the face for the Liberal Elites ........ doesn't mean we agree with him or even care, this is England, Trump is an American issue.

Also your comment on the elderly is despicable.

Instead of apparent working class people celebrating for the 'bantz' they should really be looking at the consequences of their actions ffs.

Namely that the new administration will have a significant number of people that actually don't believe in evolution.

Trump is an American issue? Ffs, you do understand that America is at the heart of global economy and whatever happens to them has ramifications worldwide.

Just think back to the credit crunch when the arse fell out of their housing market and financial services industry and exactly what effect that had on the UK.

People celebrating are literally celebrating handing power to the outer right Conservative regressives who do not give a shit about poor people ffs.

You are wasting your time.

[DiamondGooner]

Weird how a few people who resented comparisons with Trump are celebrating his win in other threads.

Oh well, this is just a lesson to people to not look after the old. They are only trouble

People are celebrating the bantz and the fact that Trump is another punch in the face for the Liberal Elites ........ doesn't mean we agree with him or even care, this is England, Trump is an American issue.

Also your comment on the elderly is despicable.

Instead of apparent working class people celebrating for the 'bantz' they should really be looking at the consequences of their actions ffs.

Namely that the new administration will have a significant number of people that actually don't believe in evolution.

Trump is an American issue? Ffs, you do understand that America is at the heart of global economy and whatever happens to them has ramifications worldwide.

Just think back to the credit crunch when the arse fell out of their housing market and financial services industry and exactly what effect that had on the UK.

People celebrating are literally celebrating handing power to the outer right Conservative regressives who do not give a shit about poor people ffs.

You are wasting your time.