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Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:08 pm
by Sims
I don't mind protesting, but depleting police resources and in turn costing the country more money is really stupid and somewhat hypocritical. In the end, it was a DEMOCRACY VOTE. The country wasn't forced to be Tory.

I saw some people justifying the graffiti and I was surprised at the naivety of it. Baffling really.

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:11 pm
by Callum
Sims wrote:I don't mind protesting, but depleting police resources and in turn costing the country more money is really stupid and somewhat hypocritical. In the end, it was a DEMOCRACY VOTE. The country wasn't forced to be Tory.

I saw some people justifying the graffiti and I was surprised at the naivety of it. Baffling really.

People have a right to protest against the Tory party, even if they ackowledge they won legitimately. Obviously those causing damage are idiots who are taking advantage of the situation but they're a tiny minority. With that attitude you're basically saying people shouldn't ever be able to voice their opinion because it wastes polices resources. :doh:

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:13 pm
by UFGN
Sims wrote:I don't mind protesting, but depleting police resources and in turn costing the country more money is really stupid and somewhat hypocritical. In the end, it was a DEMOCRACY VOTE. The country wasn't forced to be Tory.

I saw some people justifying the graffiti and I was surprised at the naivety of it. Baffling really.


How do you suggest that people protest "without depleting police resources"

Lol

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:13 pm
by Sims
I said I don't mind protesting, it's just the rioting and vandalism which is gonna build up unnecessary cost

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:14 pm
by Santi
Sims wrote:I said I don't mind protesting, it's just the rioting and vandalism which is gonna build up unnecessary cost


That they can then blame the tories for spending obv :lol:

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:16 pm
by Callum
Sims wrote:I said I don't mind protesting, it's just the rioting and vandalism which is gonna build up unnecessary cost

A tiny minority causing damage. Have some perspective.

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:17 pm
by Sims
Callum wrote:
Sims wrote:I said I don't mind protesting, it's just the rioting and vandalism which is gonna build up unnecessary cost

A tiny minority causing damage. Have some perspective.


Obviously but it's still happening regardless

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:17 pm
by Callum
Mesut, why did you vote Tory? I don't mean that as a loaded question or anything, I'm just generally curious. Do you see them as the party that most closely represents you?

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:17 pm
by UFGN
Sims wrote:I said I don't mind protesting, it's just the rioting and vandalism which is gonna build up unnecessary cost


No that isn't what you said. You said you didn't want police resources wasted. Police are going to show up in numbers spending tons of money on overtime etc regardless of if there's trouble or not. So basically, you're saying you don't want protest.

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:18 pm
by Sims
UFGN wrote:
Sims wrote:I said I don't mind protesting, it's just the rioting and vandalism which is gonna build up unnecessary cost


No that isn't what you said. You said you didn't want police resources wasted. Police are going to show up in numbers spending tons of money on overtime etc regardless of if there's trouble or not. So basically, you're saying you don't want protest.


So you're telling me that the police costs for a normal peaceful protest are the same as if it turned more violent which a minority turned it into? lol

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:19 pm
by UFGN
Sims wrote:
UFGN wrote:
Sims wrote:I said I don't mind protesting, it's just the rioting and vandalism which is gonna build up unnecessary cost


No that isn't what you said. You said you didn't want police resources wasted. Police are going to show up in numbers spending tons of money on overtime etc regardless of if there's trouble or not. So basically, you're saying you don't want protest.


So you're telling me that the police costs for a normal peaceful protest are the same as if it turned more violent which a minority turned it into? lol


Broadly, yes.

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:21 pm
by Sims
UFGN wrote:
Sims wrote:
UFGN wrote:
Sims wrote:I said I don't mind protesting, it's just the rioting and vandalism which is gonna build up unnecessary cost


No that isn't what you said. You said you didn't want police resources wasted. Police are going to show up in numbers spending tons of money on overtime etc regardless of if there's trouble or not. So basically, you're saying you don't want protest.


So you're telling me that the police costs for a normal peaceful protest are the same as if it turned more violent which a minority turned it into? lol


Broadly, yes.


fair enough. I don't have facts and figures but it would make more sense that more costs will occur the more hassle is made

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:23 pm
by Royal Gooner
Sims wrote:I don't mind protesting, but depleting police resources and in turn costing the country more money is really stupid and somewhat hypocritical. In the end, it was a DEMOCRACY VOTE. The country wasn't forced to be Tory.

I saw some people justifying the graffiti and I was surprised at the naivety of it. Baffling really.


Quite agree, this was just a bunch of uneducated plebs who threw their toys out of the pram because they didn't get what they wanted. I didn't get what I voted for in the election but I don't go around in the streets complaining about it and I certainly do not vandalise a memorial to people who served in the Second World War. That's Democracy, deal with it

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:26 pm
by UFGN
Sims wrote:
UFGN wrote:
Sims wrote:
UFGN wrote:
Sims wrote:I said I don't mind protesting, it's just the rioting and vandalism which is gonna build up unnecessary cost


No that isn't what you said. You said you didn't want police resources wasted. Police are going to show up in numbers spending tons of money on overtime etc regardless of if there's trouble or not. So basically, you're saying you don't want protest.


So you're telling me that the police costs for a normal peaceful protest are the same as if it turned more violent which a minority turned it into? lol


Broadly, yes.


fair enough. I don't have facts and figures but it would make more sense that more costs will occur the more hassle is made


Nobody sensible wants to see trouble. But on the issue of police costs, x number of officers will either be on standby or nicking people. Either way they're being paid. Xyz equipment will either be used or not used. Its already been bought amd paid for regardless.

Re: 2015 British General Election

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:28 pm
by Sims
Also I've been thinking about this. Seeing as I'm impartial it's fair to assume that the majority of Tories are f***ing bellends/c****. I'm trying to think of a word to describe Labour voters in order to balance out the insults tbh.

Delusional is leading the way for me atm.