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Re: American Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:31 pm

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Democracy lives to fight another day. The judge made the correct ruling.


If you think that dropping an unverified ballot in an anonymous box is 'democracy' welcome to third world elections .... one man one vote or just fill out 50 ballots and drop them in a box, which serves democracy better ... do you even for a second believe both sides won't try cheating now? Lawyers are already counting their money, the legal challengers will be everywhere.

In the days before everyone had two vehicles per household 80% managed to reach polling stations ... now the fat lazy fecks can't manage 50%, if you're to lazy to go to a polling station then your opinion probably isn't worth listening to.


Don't pull a muscle reaching that far.

You can provide evidence of ballot dropboxes being used as dastardly instruments of fraud and the wrongdoers aren't caught and dealt with, or you can continue your flimsy speculations while the rest of us welcome a blow to voter suppression attempts.


Protecting the integrity of elections should not be about proving something leads to fraud.
The actions to protect elections should be PREVENTATIVE.

Changing election procedures should not be done lightly and any activity that opens up or extends the possibility of fraud should not be allowed unless water tight procedures are in place.

The left seem to want to dramatically change the election process just months before an election - I wonder why?
Then they ask for proof it's not okay.
BS - THEY Need to prove that these changes will not increase the risk of fraud.
As it stands the left are basically saying you have to trust us unless you can provide evidence our motives are nefarious. Well, f*** that for a game of soldiers.

Example - if the Republicans put forward a plan to have their campaign door knock everyone and fill out ballots for the 'needy' it would be a terrible idea that would massively increase the risk of fraud. But can you prove that it would be fraudulent? No, you could not.


Nope, doesn't work like that. It's on plaintiffs to prove their accusations beyond a reasonable doubt to a judge or a jury.

Ballot drop boxes have been a thing for years, so there should be hard evidence of massive fraud occurring if it actually does. Even a Trump appointed judge shot down the Trump administration's argument to prevent the use of ballot drop boxes because the Trump administration couldn't offer hard evidence that ballot drop boxes would lead to fraud.

Speculation can lead to many things. We should ban vehicles because every one on the road Thursday at noon might get into a fatal accident. We should ban lettuce forever because there might be a chance of E. coli in every head. We should ban applesauce until it's proven to not be the cause of people committing murder. No, speculation doesn't have a place outside of gambling.


Yeah - it does work like that.
In every area of society we protect ourselves against risk. It's not a legal matter, it is pure common sense.
Risking the integrity of elections with no controls - or limited controls - in place is utter madness.
The process of electing Govt should be one that is well tested and changed only after thorough consideration.

Political games are tiring.
You know, I know and everyone else knows that the Democrats are pushing mail in voting as a method of either 1) cheating in elections or 2) creating so much uncertainty that the election itself can be litigated for months.

Please don't try and pretend they are pushing it for noble reasons.
Same with Republicans - they too have been looking for advantage by cheating voters out of a say by gerrymandering districts for years.

These people do not give a flying f*** about Democracy or you and I.
They care about power and they will do anything to achieve it.

Willing fools - or those complicit - keep arguing their cases for them.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:02 pm

VCC wrote:What has happened to PRISS
Hope he is ok havnt seen him post in a while


Hunting antelope. Got back this morning. Some tasty backstraps for dinner and sausage making in then AM! Then off to pheasant hunt on Wednesday for a few days with the son in law.


Got caught up sort of.

Dems projecting their habit of relying on activist judges on Conservatives. Hyperbolic Schumer, Biden and Harris must even be wearing thin on liberals...or do they actually believe the nonsense?

Another whack job leftist BLM asshole shoots a true patriot in Denver.

White guilt portland Anarchists destroy statues of Teddy R and Lincoln in the name of Native Americans.

More election rigging going on by the Dems and their judges.

Liverpool trying to buy off the League. f***ing Boston Scousers. No word if Stan was consulted. Might as well start up the Super League.

Some NFL QB did an Eduardo.

Miss anything?

Oh and I was only able to tune in Canadian Broadcast Corp...FFS Callum is that pap the norm for Canada now? I can only imagine a Saskatchewan rancher listening to that PC BS. Their reporting on Trump was demonstrable as false. For instance their "news" included a reporter claiming that Trump was refusing a "peaceful" transition. They spent a whole hour on "gender selection" as a teenager and the host recommended that boys be given dolls rather than toy trucks so they could explore various genders starting at age 4.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:13 pm

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Va-Va-Voom wrote:Wow Jayram really ran with "Trump hating antifa" based on a flag in the back?

Lmfao


That's not the best part.

Yesterday he was talking about that guy with the flag being some "Antifa brown shirt" because he had a "big Antifa flag on his wall".

...it was an anarchy flag.

:rofll:

How tf are you gonna come on here puffing your chest out and not get that simple detail right? ffs


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Yeah - looks like just the kind of guy who would be influenced to kidnap someone because of a Trump tweet as you fools suggested.

Oh look - an Antifa rally with the same symbol...
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Oh look, another, this time in Seattle..
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Oh look, yet another...this time with the same anti-Trump rhetoric the ring leader of kidnap plot was spouting..next to the same symbol he was so proudly displaying.
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More, this time in Berkeley..
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Sorry lads - own your own brownshirts.

Your narrative has been debunked. You peddled left wing media bollocks and tried to pin an kidnap attempt by a group that actually hates Trump on a Trump tweet - utterly ridiculous - and you have the bare faced cheek to keep spinning your ridiculous accusation.

Here is a little truth for you - Antifa is not just an idea (lol) and they are not 'anti-facists'. They are a collection of anarchists who have been embraced by the radical left to destroy the system of govt in the USA. Own it and stop trying to blame others for their behaviour. Perhaps if you stopped pretending Antifa didn't exist and condemned them for their disgusting behaviour, you'd be less culpable for encouraging the kind of behaviour - like kidnap attempts, murder, looting, rioting - that Antifa are now engaged in.

You have to be some kind of halfwit to even suggest that the kidnap attempt on Whitmer had ANYTHING to do with Trump.
Perhaps the most laughable of all is that you think these anarchist scum are not part of the whole Antifa spectacle. As if they are separate groups with different agendas out tearing the country apart. :lol:


Oh dear. Instead of just apologizing and admitting your mistake, you've decided to go down the unenviable path of doubling down.

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Also, point me to where I blamed this on Trump. You really are a special kind of stupid.


What everyone is missing it seems, is that the far left and far right meet. It is the big circle theory in action. The only difference between a neo Nazi sort and an Anarchist is indeed how they view themselves. In reality they both want to do away with government and are prepared to do so by force...though both sides greatly overestimate their abilities. That and the Anarchists have hitched their wagon to Bernie while the goofy right wingnuts gravitate toward Trump because he is blowing up DC politics. It was Bernie bro that shot up the GOP baseball side, and these idiots who wanted to kidnap Whitmer. I did read that she had a new improved wall installed which is rather ironic... :lol:
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:32 pm

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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:45 pm

EliteKiller wrote:
LMAO wrote:

loooool

Democracy lives to fight another day. The judge made the correct ruling.


If you think that dropping an unverified ballot in an anonymous box is 'democracy' welcome to third world elections .... one man one vote or just fill out 50 ballots and drop them in a box, which serves democracy better ... do you even for a second believe both sides won't try cheating now? Lawyers are already counting their money, the legal challengers will be everywhere.

In the days before everyone had two vehicles per household 80% managed to reach polling stations ... now the fat lazy fecks can't manage 50%, if you're to lazy to go to a polling station then your opinion probably isn't worth listening to.


Even in Iraq they required a voter to dip their thumb in purple ink to avoid voter fraud.

Yes, if anyone buys into the Dems trying to "improve voter access" is not being remotely objective. Voting is a right but also a responsibility. Freedom is just a generation away from disappearing to paraphrase Reagan. We are witnessing that very threat before our eyes. I care who wins based on policy , but the paramount issue has to be fairness because every fraudulent vote cancels out a legitimate one. That becomes a civil rights issue. The left banters on about civil rights while scheming to deny civil rights. FFS, the Dems are taking dives all over the pitch and their supporters cheer it on. Show some character you lefties! :1970_two_smileys_drinking_beer_together.gif:
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Re: American Politics

Postby LMAO » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:07 am

Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:Yes, if anyone buys into the Dems trying to "improve voter access" is not being remotely objective. Voting is a right but also a responsibility. Freedom is just a generation away from disappearing to paraphrase Reagan. We are witnessing that very threat before our eyes. I care who wins based on policy , but the paramount issue has to be fairness because every fraudulent vote cancels out a legitimate one. That becomes a civil rights issue. The left banters on about civil rights while scheming to deny civil rights. FFS, the Dems are taking dives all over the pitch and their supporters cheer it on.


Just to be clear, you are saying this with a straight face, yes?

And based on omission, you are insinuating that the GOP—and by extension, the right—is for fighting for fairness, yes?
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Re: American Politics

Postby LMAO » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:28 am

Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:Hunting antelope. Got back this morning. Some tasty backstraps for dinner and sausage making in then AM! Then off to pheasant hunt on Wednesday for a few days with the son in law.


Noice.

Is your den wall full of taxidermy mounts?
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Re: American Politics

Postby VCC » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:36 am

Welcome back PRISS
Btw what is pheasant like to eat, and why do I have visions of side by sides and Tweed hats
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Re: American Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:42 am

LMAO wrote:
Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:Yes, if anyone buys into the Dems trying to "improve voter access" is not being remotely objective. Voting is a right but also a responsibility. Freedom is just a generation away from disappearing to paraphrase Reagan. We are witnessing that very threat before our eyes. I care who wins based on policy , but the paramount issue has to be fairness because every fraudulent vote cancels out a legitimate one. That becomes a civil rights issue. The left banters on about civil rights while scheming to deny civil rights. FFS, the Dems are taking dives all over the pitch and their supporters cheer it on.


Just to be clear, you are saying this with a straight face, yes?

And based on omission, you are insinuating that the GOP—and by extension, the right—is for fighting for fairness, yes?


Neither party is fighting for fairness. They are fighting for votes - fairly or not - and power.
Wake up.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:26 pm

LMAO wrote:
Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:Yes, if anyone buys into the Dems trying to "improve voter access" is not being remotely objective. Voting is a right but also a responsibility. Freedom is just a generation away from disappearing to paraphrase Reagan. We are witnessing that very threat before our eyes. I care who wins based on policy , but the paramount issue has to be fairness because every fraudulent vote cancels out a legitimate one. That becomes a civil rights issue. The left banters on about civil rights while scheming to deny civil rights. FFS, the Dems are taking dives all over the pitch and their supporters cheer it on.


Just to be clear, you are saying this with a straight face, yes?

And based on omission, you are insinuating that the GOP—and by extension, the right—is for fighting for fairness, yes?


Given you found ground to object to my position on voter fraud by "omission" can I assume you found the actual content to be correct? From your response it sounds like your ox was gored so you resorted to projection to find a way to respond.

I oppose any threat to democracy as I thought I made clear. Currently that threat is voter fraud and that is undeniably a left wing problem. If I omitted the GOP in my post it was because it is not the GOP who is trying to make voter fraud far more easy. As in football we have to have to have boundaries and rules that ensure fairness. It is perhaps the biggest civil rights issue of the day. It is not a party issue, but in this day of media manufactured TDS and the threat Trump poses to the DC establishment, (both GOP and DEMs ie the political class and the corrupt status quo) watering down of election procedures that open the door to fraudulent elections. I am not OK with district gerrymandering by the GOP or DEMs, I am not OK with ballot harvesting. I am not OK with "early voting" as votes are cast a month or more before the elections and those votes cannot be recalled if one candidate is exposed or an event happens that would change that voters mind. I am not OK with district judges making insanely political rulings that would allow LATE votes to be counted. That is why we have an election day. I am not even OK with electronic voting, we need to use paper ballots in person or by established absentee ballots. Fair uncorrupted voting is the basis of any democratic system, as such it is very foundation of the nation and our liberty. It is a sacred responsibility and has to be protected at all cost.



So to make it clear as to what I have seen happen, the play book and it is not new, they have been on this for at least thirty years that I have been aware of by the Progressives and now by the mainstream Dem party which has become a Progressive party and all that entails. The Dems work towards loosening voting procedures while making the claim that the GOP is trying to suppress voting. It is a political ploy intended to play to the liberal leaning folks who tend to view the world through a more emotional lense than Conservatives who tend to be more objective in such matters. We have all seen, and you have even made mention that 'poor black people can't manage to get to a polling station'...talk about condescension and using a supposedly inept (according to the left) demographic. We heard the same argument made here in MT by Bullock about the reservations. Yet in truth reservation residents are perhaps the most mobile of of citizens most having addresses on the reservations yet especially the younger folks spend much of their time in Billings. Bullock was called out by the Crow leadership for trying to use them and making them sound like some remote Amazonian tribe that has little contact with civilization. Today we see the left using Covid as an excuse to f**k with elections. Jane Fonda confirmed what any objective person knows. You know it, but can you admit it?

Clearly this election will devolve into chaos given all these idiotic parameters, and sadly I suspect that is by design. If Trump wins the left will claim he is not legitimate yet again. If Biden wins we will not know it for a month and the left will claim Trump is not leaving peacefully, they have been setting that table for a year now. It will make Florida's hang chad BS look like children's book written by AOC. (Now you have to admit that was a good line given her one failed venture into business!)

So can you with a straight face say that when listening to the likes of Pelosi and her ilk that you nod in agreement and simply think they are on a mission from God? Do you not agree that any instance of voter fraud is a travesty that cancels out legitimate votes and thus is a civil rights issue?
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:40 pm

VCC wrote:Welcome back PRISS
Btw what is pheasant like to eat, and why do I have visions of side by sides and Tweed hats


Very tasty and healthy. Not like watered down store bought chicken, enough of the wild to know it is wild.

We don't do the posh driven hunts, simply a good dog or two and nice stroll through the cover wearing orange. We flush them and hopefully hold the proper lead. Very blue collar, a very rural American tradition. It is both sport and a harvest. Pheasants on average live to two years or less before succumbing to various ends. Weather, predators, road kill etc. Given the sexes are easy to distinguish it is only legal ( more of a tradition than science based) to shoot cock birds. The dogs flush them all and most commonly you or hunting partner will call out "hen" when it is a hen or "rooster" when it is a cock. Then you hear either "good shot" or "f**k me how did I miss that one"!

As for weaponry, my choice is a forty year old Benelli over under in 12 gauge that was my first decent shotgun purchase and will go to a daughter when I kick the bucket.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:51 pm

LMAO wrote:
Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:Hunting antelope. Got back this morning. Some tasty backstraps for dinner and sausage making in then AM! Then off to pheasant hunt on Wednesday for a few days with the son in law.


Noice.

Is your den wall full of taxidermy mounts?


No. We have one whitetail mount that a friend did for me years ago. A few sets of elk and deer antlers and pronghorns that I shot with my bow years ago that I did skull mounts myself. My den has pictures of fish I have caught from all over the world especially from the Bahamas and various islands in the Pacific. Not trophies per say but memories. My garage has a pile of shed horns I have picked up and many I have shot over the years. Not a big trophy hunter, we love the meat and it it keeps one connected to the land and nature. What is real.
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Re: American Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:24 pm

Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:As for weaponry, my choice is a forty year old Benelli over under in 12 gauge that was my first decent shotgun purchase and will go to a daughter when I kick the bucket.


For me I'd only go hunting with an M249 nothing smaller.

"Hen!!" ...bbbrrrapp.... "Errrgh too late".

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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:09 am

DiamondGooner wrote:
Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:As for weaponry, my choice is a forty year old Benelli over under in 12 gauge that was my first decent shotgun purchase and will go to a daughter when I kick the bucket.


For me I'd only go hunting with an M249 nothing smaller.

"Hen!!" ...bbbrrrapp.... "Errrgh too late".

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Concussion rounds? They seem to be in very good condition!

Thank God for the Normans and their taste for pheasant eh?
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:30 am

Crazy Maizy actually asked ACB if she ever had sexually assaulted anyone. The look on ACB's face was priceless...like WTF are you on about woman.

The Dems were better behaved this time around but their "questioning" was bordering on insanity.
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