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Re: American Politics

Postby Callum » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:27 am

EliteKiller wrote:
Callum wrote:"Biden is no worse than Trump" is a line for those who enjoy and support many policies of the right but don't have the balls to come out and say it.


Or you're just a weak thinking lemming spouting left wing platitudes whilst enjoying the benefits of living in a right wing capitalist society. See we can all right meaningless sentences claiming to know what others think, but what's the point?

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Re: American Politics

Postby EliteKiller » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:31 am

or you could just post childish images - you will look a bit of a jerk either way, so nothing new for you there.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Callum » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:33 am

EliteKiller wrote:or you could just post childish images - you will look a bit of a jerk either way, so nothing new for you there.

Mate, I really don't care. We're all grown men squabbling about politics on an Arsenal fans' forum. None of us are winners here.
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Re: American Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:06 am

Callum wrote:"Biden is no worse than Trump" is a line for those who enjoy and support many policies of the right but don't have the balls to come out and say it.


Constant pigeon holing is funnily enough only done by the Left, when it comes to us central folk we don't get much if any jip from the Right, they're always more than happy to explain their standing and then we just see if we agree or not .......... you know, a civilised discussion.

That doesn't exist with the Left, you have a way or approach of talking to the Right but the Left have no tact at all for talking to the Centre because for years now the extremist elements in the Left have grown and the vocabulary is if the Right don't agree there is no room for discussion, they're the enemy.

.............. we in the centre now get the same intolerant treatment because the Lefts approach is if you dare question our policy your obviously Right wing.

You don't win many central friends that way hence why the Left have lost every major vote in the last 6 years.

As for your statement about policy, what makes you think central people don't have the balls to say what they agree with? have you ever asked?

There are some policies on the central Right I like and there are some policies on the Left I like ........... which is funnily enough a characteristic of being central, is that balls enough for you?
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Re: American Politics

Postby Arsenal Tone » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:43 am

EliteKiller wrote:
Callum wrote:"Biden is no worse than Trump" is a line for those who enjoy and support many policies of the right but don't have the balls to come out and say it.


Or you're just a weak thinking lemming spouting left wing platitudes whilst enjoying the benefits of living in a right wing capitalist society. See we can all right meaningless sentences claiming to know what others think, but what's the point?


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Re: American Politics

Postby Phil71 » Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:44 am

Tony Adams wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:
Callum wrote:"Biden is no worse than Trump" is a line for those who enjoy and support many policies of the right but don't have the balls to come out and say it.


Or you're just a weak thinking lemming spouting left wing platitudes whilst enjoying the benefits of living in a right wing capitalist society. See we can all right meaningless sentences claiming to know what others think, but what's the point?


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You forgot to add, "Must try harder", and "See me after school."
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Re: American Politics

Postby Santi » Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:16 am

DiamondGooner wrote:
Callum wrote:"Biden is no worse than Trump" is a line for those who enjoy and support many policies of the right but don't have the balls to come out and say it.


Constant pigeon holing is funnily enough only done by the Left, when it comes to us central folk we don't get much if any jip from the Right, they're always more than happy to explain their standing and then we just see if we agree or not .......... you know, a civilised discussion.

That doesn't exist with the Left, you have a way or approach of talking to the Right but the Left have no tact at all for talking to the Centre because for years now the extremist elements in the Left have grown and the vocabulary is if the Right don't agree there is no room for discussion, they're the enemy.

.............. we in the centre now get the same intolerant treatment because the Lefts approach is if you dare question our policy your obviously Right wing.

You don't win many central friends that way hence why the Left have lost every major vote in the last 6 years.

As for your statement about policy, what makes you think central people don't have the balls to say what they agree with? have you ever asked?

There are some policies on the central Right I like and there are some policies on the Left I like ........... which is funnily enough a characteristic of being central, is that balls enough for you?



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Re: American Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:29 am

One of the recipients in the email trails found on the laptops has come forward and confirmed that the biggest email in the lot, the one about where the money was going, is true.

We now have corroboration from one of the people actually in the copy list.

He has confirmed that the 'big guy' is in fact Joe Biden.

It's looking more and more like Joe Biden did indeed use the office of VP to enrich himself.
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Re: American Politics

Postby UFGN » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:27 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
Callum wrote:"Biden is no worse than Trump" is a line for those who enjoy and support many policies of the right but don't have the balls to come out and say it.


Constant pigeon holing is funnily enough only done by the Left, when it comes to us central folk we don't get much if any jip from the Right, they're always more than happy to explain their standing and then we just see if we agree or not .......... you know, a civilised discussion.

That doesn't exist with the Left, you have a way or approach of talking to the Right but the Left have no tact at all for talking to the Centre because for years now the extremist elements in the Left have grown and the vocabulary is if the Right don't agree there is no room for discussion, they're the enemy.

.............. we in the centre now get the same intolerant treatment because the Lefts approach is if you dare question our policy your obviously Right wing.

You don't win many central friends that way hence why the Left have lost every major vote in the last 6 years.

As for your statement about policy, what makes you think central people don't have the balls to say what they agree with? have you ever asked?

There are some policies on the central Right I like and there are some policies on the Left I like ........... which is funnily enough a characteristic of being central, is that balls enough for you?


Dont mistake the way you get treated with the way other people get treated.

You forget that impressions go both ways. The impression you give is of a rather silly reactionary who gets angry over whatever is on FB this morning, and someone who has fallen down a right wing rabbit hole

And that is reflected in the way you get treated
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Re: American Politics

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:53 pm

jayramfootball wrote:One of the recipients in the email trails found on the laptops has come forward and confirmed that the biggest email in the lot, the one about where the money was going, is true.

We now have corroboration from one of the people actually in the copy list.

He has confirmed that the 'big guy' is in fact Joe Biden.

It's looking more and more like Joe Biden did indeed use the office of VP to enrich himself.


I just want to know if Hunter is a nonce.
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Re: American Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:01 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:One of the recipients in the email trails found on the laptops has come forward and confirmed that the biggest email in the lot, the one about where the money was going, is true.

We now have corroboration from one of the people actually in the copy list.

He has confirmed that the 'big guy' is in fact Joe Biden.

It's looking more and more like Joe Biden did indeed use the office of VP to enrich himself.


I just want to know if Hunter is a nonce.


Don't really care about that - if he is then he'll be arrested, but that is not a Joe Biden issue.
The real issue is if Biden was getting kickbacks from business deals he was facilitating through his office.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Royal Gooner » Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:46 pm

jayramfootball wrote:One of the recipients in the email trails found on the laptops has come forward and confirmed that the biggest email in the lot, the one about where the money was going, is true.

We now have corroboration from one of the people actually in the copy list.

He has confirmed that the 'big guy' is in fact Joe Biden.

It's looking more and more like Joe Biden did indeed use the office of VP to enrich himself.


If true, I'm sure Trump will order the FBI to speed up the investigation before the election.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Jedi » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:02 pm

Royal Gooner wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:One of the recipients in the email trails found on the laptops has come forward and confirmed that the biggest email in the lot, the one about where the money was going, is true.

We now have corroboration from one of the people actually in the copy list.

He has confirmed that the 'big guy' is in fact Joe Biden.

It's looking more and more like Joe Biden did indeed use the office of VP to enrich himself.


If true, I'm sure Trump will order the FBI to speed up the investigation before the election.

Why would he do that? Nothing in the emails suggests anything close to a crime (unless you believe the pedo stuff), so both Joe and Hunter would be cleared. It's much better optics to keep everything in a cloud of uncertainty.

By the way, Jayram, what do you think about the FBI saying that votes are secure during yesterday's conference?
As we enter the last weeks before the election, we urge every American – including members of the media – to be cautious about believing or spreading unverified, sensational claims related to votes and voting.
“This video and any claims about such allegedly fraudulent ballots are not true,” Ratcliffe said.

He added that “these actions are desperate attempts by desperate adversaries. Even if the adversaries pursue further attempts to intimidate or attempt to undermine voter confidence, know that our election systems are resilient and you can be confident that your votes are secure.

If there's massive voter fraud happening with the mail in ballots, as Trump suggests, why isn't his own Director of National Intelligence that he appointed backing him?
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Re: American Politics

Postby EliteKiller » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:49 pm

Jedi wrote:Why would he do that? Nothing in the emails suggests anything close to a crime (unless you believe the pedo stuff), so both Joe and Hunter would be cleared. It's much better optics to keep everything in a cloud of uncertainty.


Accepting financial compensation whilst VP of the USA from a foreign entity is in fact a very serious crime. The e-mails and the testimony of one person so far provide enough of a smoking gun to warrant an investigation - don't kid yourself 'endorsements' by politicians in return for cash happens all the time, bribery is passed of as lobbying ... but when it involves a foreign entity then that's a very different issue.

Hunter is just a spoilt rich kid, who cares what he has or hasn't done, the issue is what and when Joe knew about it ... remember he has repeatedly said he never knew anything that's a very tough line to draw back from, and very easy to prove if it turns out to be a lie.

Trump does not control the FBI (even if he thinks he does) they will not want a repeat of the Clinton debacle in 2016 so unless they have 100% proof they will say nothing ... not now anyway.
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Re: American Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:04 pm

Jedi wrote:
Royal Gooner wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:One of the recipients in the email trails found on the laptops has come forward and confirmed that the biggest email in the lot, the one about where the money was going, is true.

We now have corroboration from one of the people actually in the copy list.

He has confirmed that the 'big guy' is in fact Joe Biden.

It's looking more and more like Joe Biden did indeed use the office of VP to enrich himself.


If true, I'm sure Trump will order the FBI to speed up the investigation before the election.

Why would he do that? Nothing in the emails suggests anything close to a crime (unless you believe the pedo stuff), so both Joe and Hunter would be cleared. It's much better optics to keep everything in a cloud of uncertainty.

By the way, Jayram, what do you think about the FBI saying that votes are secure during yesterday's conference?
As we enter the last weeks before the election, we urge every American – including members of the media – to be cautious about believing or spreading unverified, sensational claims related to votes and voting.
“This video and any claims about such allegedly fraudulent ballots are not true,” Ratcliffe said.

He added that “these actions are desperate attempts by desperate adversaries. Even if the adversaries pursue further attempts to intimidate or attempt to undermine voter confidence, know that our election systems are resilient and you can be confident that your votes are secure.

If there's massive voter fraud happening with the mail in ballots, as Trump suggests, why isn't his own Director of National Intelligence that he appointed backing him?


Lol, The FBI have said a lot of things - if you think they can keep a track of every scheme you're crazy.

Put it this way - what is more believable ... that the Democrats are pushing mail in voting, post election mail in voting and ballot inclusions without signature verification because :
1) They are noble politicians trying to ensure every one votes?
2) They want to exploit the process to ballot harvest and get as many fraudulent votes through as possible?

Hint on the answer - those selecting number 1 are idiots. The Republicans will be trying similar sh*t.

Now on to Biden, it's not about criminality, it's about the abuse of the office. According to recovered emails, since corroborated by 2 direct witnesses (named, and partners of Hunter Biden), Joe Biden used the office of VP to enrich himself. I would think everyone would agree that voters need to know these details.
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