American Politics

[LMAO]

Sorry I don't give a shit what the legal niceties are. If he paid the woman, he shagged her

So what are you waiting for Pence? Your boss is an adulterer. You're presence is helping to prop him up. You must resign!!

Otherwise God will come and get you

Man of God turns blind eye to his boss using campaign funds to pay off porn stars and lying about it to Man of God's office, flag and country he's sworn to uphold with integrity and respect. Man of God stays silent on rampant adultery while bosses wife is nursing a new born.

The party of family values everyone.

f***ing hypocrites.

"Rules for thee but not for me." -Republican Party mantra since Nixon(?)

[EliteKiller]

"Rules for thee but not for me." - The mantra for all politicians the world over since government was first formed in Sumer back in 4,000 BC

Fixed that for you ..............

[UFGN]

Nobody is whatabouting their way out of this. Paying a slapper off to keep quiet loòoool

How many more compromising situations has he got himself into? It makes that whole "does Putin have videos" thing more likely

[Zedie]

You know elite killer is mortally wounded when he's firing out whatabouts that literally have nothing close to what has been proven in a court of law right now in regards to trump.

Elite - at this stage, it's easier to just admit you backed a corruption infected horse mate.

Trying to fall back on 'both sides are the same' is bollocks.

What do you actually think about Trumps team and where this is heading for Trump and right wing politics in general because from your responses, no one could really tell.

[EliteKiller]

You know elite killer is mortally wounded when he's firing out whatabouts that literally have nothing close to what has been proven in a court of law right now in regards to trump.

Elite - at this stage, it's easier to just admit you backed a corruption infected horse mate.

Trying to fall back on 'both sides are the same' is bollocks.

What do you actually think about Trumps team and where this is heading for Trump and right wing politics in general because from your responses, no one could really tell.

You may be right he might indeed be finished ... but my bet would still be on Trump surviving all the 'accusations' and still running for a second term ....

FYI - I have never backed Trump, in my view he's the epitome of everything that's wrong with the 'most cash' 'shout the loudest' political environment that dominates most Western countries .... that's not to say I don't support some of his actions ...

That doesn't mean I believe even 10% of the media coverage both pro and anti .... it's mostly complete drivel ....

As for Trump's team ... when he appointed some 'non-politicians' I hoped that might be a good thing, it wasn't ... there are very few in his team that would be in mine, but that goes equally for the Dems 'top people' ....

My politics are definitely right of centre, that said I admire both Bernie and JC for their convictions, as for the Alt-right they're a bunch of morons, same goes for Antifa and even Black Lives Matter ... that's not politics it's just rabble rousing ....

My biggest issue is the level of debate that occurs at every level ... media, parliament, street ... instead of discussion it's just constant abuse ... that never ends well ...

Trump may prove to be a watershed in US politics, as indeed Jeremy Corby might in the UK ... their idealistic approach will hopefully force others to realize that we don't need extremists gaining power ... we just need better leaders ... sadly I don't think that will happen, nobody will want to step up knowing that the media, political opponents, and 50% of the population will be looking at every opportunity to feck them over ... sad times

[UFGN]

Obama got stick from the GOP faithfull for asking for mustard on his hot dog

Imagine if Obama had paid off a whore after shagging around behind Michelle's back, and bragged about grabbing women by the pussy because he was so powerfull they just let him.

Just imagine it

Whataboutism lol

[Jedi]

It's funny how this won't affect his popularity at all. He can literally do anything and nobody will be surprised or care.

[UFGN]

It's funny how this won't affect his popularity at all. He can literally do anything and nobody will be surprised or care.

This is an important statement and IF TRUE....

Is it proof that his voters are disproportionately stupid?

[UFGN]

Trump now saying it should be illegal to grass to the police

By default saying it should be legal to retain information about a crime

Unbelievable scenes

[jayramfootball]

Just found this thread and had a read through most of it... took a while.
Its fantastic history recorded as the whole saga unfolded.
I never thought anyone like Trump could win the US Presidency.
Seems like he has done a very good job - for America - but, damn, the media and Washington DC REALLY hate him.. they are a machine of propaganda day after day after day.
I keep reading about all the terrible things he's done and initially think - "what a douche" - then look into them and find out it's mostly BS.
Well, he probably is a douche as a person, but they are seriously trying to send the guy to jail or worse for absolutely nothing. They could hype up a traffic ticket into the crime of the century! Crazy.

[UFGN]

Just found this thread and had a read through most of it... took a while.
Its fantastic history recorded as the whole saga unfolded.
I never thought anyone like Trump could win the US Presidency.
Seems like he has done a very good job - for America - but, damn, the media and Washington DC REALLY hate him.. they are a machine of propaganda day after day after day.
I keep reading about all the terrible things he's done and initially think - "what a douche" - then look into them and find out it's mostly BS.
Well, he probably is a douche as a person, but they are seriously trying to send the guy to jail or worse for absolutely nothing. They could hype up a traffic ticket into the crime of the century! Crazy.

He paid a hooker off after shagging her while his missus was up the duff

He literally bragged about sexually assaulting women

He literally made it his stated policy to steal oil from foreign countries using the army as backup

[EliteKiller]

He paid a hooker off after shagging her while his missus was up the duff

He literally bragged about sexually assaulting women

He literally made it his stated policy to steal oil from foreign countries using the army as backup

Is paying off somebody a crime in the US .... NO

Is talking bollocks about your sexual prowess a crime in the US .... NO

He LITERALLY did not steal oil from anyone, is political posturing a crime in the US .... NO

The guy has many incredible flaws, but just making up 'crimes' when in fact no charges have so far been laid and no crimes proven? what's that all about .... there's no question Trump has the character traits of a thick skinned neurotic with a God complex ... but that's what the US electorate (God help them) voted for ... it's called Democracy, and even when that's subverted by money, lies, and fake-news it still counts .....

Trump like Clinton, Bush, Reagan and Nixon before him is now under a Judicial Investigation .... only when he's found guilty of a crime (and he can't be tried in court whilst president) so only via impeachment in Congress, can he be deemed guilty of criminal activity ...

I wouldn't hold your breath on that .... Congress will not want to open a can of worms on paying people off, sexism, being an idiot .... the only thing that might get them going is rock-solid proof of Russian having manipulated the election, and so far that's nowhere to be seen .....

[UFGN]

EK give the f***ing semantics a rest. I'm too old to be playing silly buggers with f***ing wordplay

The prick would be living in a trailer park and signing a register if he were a normal citizen. He's a sexual predator

He has, factually, proposed breaking US and international laws on multiple occasions regarding human rights and theft of property

[LMAO]

Trump like Clinton, Bush, Reagan and Nixon before him is now under a Judicial Investigation .... only when he's found guilty of a crime (and he can't be tried in court whilst president) so only via impeachment in Congress, can he be deemed guilty of criminal activity ....

That is false. There is currently no ruling on whether a sitting president can be indicted. However, there is precedent that a sitting president can be subpoenaed and compelled to testify before a grand jury.

[EliteKiller]

Trump like Clinton, Bush, Reagan and Nixon before him is now under a Judicial Investigation .... only when he's found guilty of a crime (and he can't be tried in court whilst president) so only via impeachment in Congress, can he be deemed guilty of criminal activity ....

That is false. There is currently no ruling on whether a sitting president can be indicted. However, there is precedent that a sitting president can be subpoenaed and compelled to testify before a grand jury.

I'm not sure about that - this is a from Chapman University law professor Ronald Rotunda and was written regarding Clinton ....

The drafters of the Constitution spent a lot of time on the question of how to respond to presidential wrongdoing. Their remedy was impeachment (by the House of Representatives) and then conviction (by the Senate), which could occur for "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

But what happens if the president is convicted by the Senate? Here's the constitutional answer:

"Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law."

A reasonable interpretation of this provision is that it sets out a temporal sequence: Impeachment, then conviction and removal from office — and only after that, indictment, trial, judgment and punishment.

Alexander Hamilton seemed to read the provision exactly that way: "The President of the United States would be liable to be impeached, tried, and, upon conviction of treason, bribery, or other high crimes or misdemeanors, removed from office; and would afterwards be liable to prosecution and punishment in the ordinary course of law."

That in practice means under the constitution you can't indict and try a sitting president. He has to be removed first.