by Phil71 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:03 pm
by Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:45 pm
by LMAO » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:21 pm
by DiamondGooner » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:50 pm
by Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:14 pm
DiamondGooner wrote:If Bernie gets shafted which is currently in full swing with EVERY Dem getting behind Biden then I'd rather Trump win again, for the lolz tbf.
I mean why not? wtf is Biden going to do for the people, same old same old, nothing!
Shooting in schools will continue due to lacks gun control, people will still be not covered by Universal medical help, debt will still rise in every sector.
So if they want to shaft Bernie (again), then fk the Dems, I honestly have no interest in another plain jane Dem.
Why? because the Dems are the biggest hypocrites of all, Wolf in Sheeps clothing.
They suck up to the poor, suck up to the minorities but deliver sweet fk all, at least the Republicans are more straight forward about what they're going to give you and what they stand for.
Rather see Trump troll the establishement for another 4 years and leave corporate Dems out in the cold .......... which they seem happy to do to keep control of their party.
Dems are literally good for nothing if they're not going to have a change mentality.
Voting for Dems to "Just get Trump out" is not good enough imo, it just props up the waste of space politics their offering.
This is why I'm glad Brexit happened, our politicians took us for granted for many years especially in the David Cameron era and they didn't just get a black eye, they got their jaw broken.
So again I'm neither here nor there on leaving the EU, I'm just proud our democracy still actually works.
by Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:22 pm
aniym wrote:So Democrats nominate someone whose key policy position is 'decency', despite firsthand experience of Republican obstruction in Congress and Senate.
Running against a Republican incumbent who despite needing memos to have pictures to go with the words, has already appointed 2 supreme court judges and [b]clearly has plans to replace Ginsberg when she croaks[/b].
Clearly has plans to replace Ginsberg when she croaks
by Yago » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:50 am
by LMAO » Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:05 am
by Royal Gooner » Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:52 am
LMAO wrote:The Warren campaign is reassessing. I hope she drops out so we stop the vote splitting between progressives and moderates.
Meanwhile, it is the heat death of the universe and Tulsi Gabbard is still running for the 2020 Democratic nomination with her single delegate
by Royal Gooner » Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:23 pm
by Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:54 pm
Yago wrote:couple things
1) Yes, this primary is done.
2) Nothing "being shafted", or rigged here. Endorsements are very normal in elections.
3) It turns out that constantly antagonising your own party is maybe not the greatest idea when you want to be the leader of that party. Bernie's whole strategy was to coast to the convention with his base of 30% in a crowded field. That sounds good until people drop out/ support coalesces behind a candidate. He needed to try to appeal to voters beyond his own loyal base. He didn't.
4) This looks very good for Biden's GE chances. Bernie is ofc still strong with the youth vote, but the youth vote is down/even compared to 2016. Turnout as a whole increased massively, though. Not among the white working class Trump voters Bernie said he'd appeal to, but among the same voters that brought democrats 40+ house seats in 2018: middle class voters from the suburbs, especially women. Another strong sign for Biden is that he is actually beating Bernie among working class/ non college educated voters - a strong contrast with Hillary in the 2016 race. Bernie's only strong bases left are latino voters and voters in very progressive areas (+ young people, but as mentioned, they didn't turn up). Which is also why this primary is over. Biden has big appeal in the rust belt, and Sanders is not looking like he'll win any of the remaining big haul states.
In summary, Biden looking good. He pierced the myth of Sanders "revolution", and had a very big surge of voters turning out for him. He wouldn't have been my pick (Warren :/), but he's looking good against Trump and as long as he gets the senate, that would still be a very good result.
by Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:05 pm
Royal Gooner wrote:LMAO wrote:The Warren campaign is reassessing. I hope she drops out so we stop the vote splitting between progressives and moderates.
Meanwhile, it is the heat death of the universe and Tulsi Gabbard is still running for the 2020 Democratic nomination with her single delegate
You never know, still states to grab. I always do wonder why people drop out after not winning the first or second primary? If you seriously want to be President, you shouldn't be dropping out after a little bloody nose. You should keep going, especially if there's 40+ states on offer. Likewise, I don't get why the South Bender Mayor gave up when he had already won states.
Likewise, I don't get why the South Bender Mayor gave up when he had already won states.
by Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:07 pm
Royal Gooner wrote:Pocahontas is out. She'd never have won anyway, she was always tainted by those Trump jibes.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51759386
by Yago » Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:36 pm
Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:Yago wrote:couple things
1) Yes, this primary is done.
2) Nothing "being shafted", or rigged here. Endorsements are very normal in elections.
3) It turns out that constantly antagonising your own party is maybe not the greatest idea when you want to be the leader of that party. Bernie's whole strategy was to coast to the convention with his base of 30% in a crowded field. That sounds good until people drop out/ support coalesces behind a candidate. He needed to try to appeal to voters beyond his own loyal base. He didn't.
4) This looks very good for Biden's GE chances. Bernie is ofc still strong with the youth vote, but the youth vote is down/even compared to 2016. Turnout as a whole increased massively, though. Not among the white working class Trump voters Bernie said he'd appeal to, but among the same voters that brought democrats 40+ house seats in 2018: middle class voters from the suburbs, especially women. Another strong sign for Biden is that he is actually beating Bernie among working class/ non college educated voters - a strong contrast with Hillary in the 2016 race. Bernie's only strong bases left are latino voters and voters in very progressive areas (+ young people, but as mentioned, they didn't turn up). Which is also why this primary is over. Biden has big appeal in the rust belt, and Sanders is not looking like he'll win any of the remaining big haul states.
In summary, Biden looking good. He pierced the myth of Sanders "revolution", and had a very big surge of voters turning out for him. He wouldn't have been my pick (Warren :/), but he's looking good against Trump and as long as he gets the senate, that would still be a very good result.
The nomination system within the DNC and party is not only rigged but controlled through the Superdelegate system which is a backstop in case the voters cross the party elites. The DNC also dictates the media coverage and spin through daily or even hourly talking point memos. This is why if you channel surf all of the news channels the exact same verbiage is used by pundits.
Does anyone really know what Biden's policies are? So far it is only beat Trump and expand Obamacare, along with the obligatory open borders and provide illegal immigrants with free healthcare.
by LMAO » Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:34 pm
Yago wrote:Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:Yago wrote:couple things
1) Yes, this primary is done.
2) Nothing "being shafted", or rigged here. Endorsements are very normal in elections.
3) It turns out that constantly antagonising your own party is maybe not the greatest idea when you want to be the leader of that party. Bernie's whole strategy was to coast to the convention with his base of 30% in a crowded field. That sounds good until people drop out/ support coalesces behind a candidate. He needed to try to appeal to voters beyond his own loyal base. He didn't.
4) This looks very good for Biden's GE chances. Bernie is ofc still strong with the youth vote, but the youth vote is down/even compared to 2016. Turnout as a whole increased massively, though. Not among the white working class Trump voters Bernie said he'd appeal to, but among the same voters that brought democrats 40+ house seats in 2018: middle class voters from the suburbs, especially women. Another strong sign for Biden is that he is actually beating Bernie among working class/ non college educated voters - a strong contrast with Hillary in the 2016 race. Bernie's only strong bases left are latino voters and voters in very progressive areas (+ young people, but as mentioned, they didn't turn up). Which is also why this primary is over. Biden has big appeal in the rust belt, and Sanders is not looking like he'll win any of the remaining big haul states.
In summary, Biden looking good. He pierced the myth of Sanders "revolution", and had a very big surge of voters turning out for him. He wouldn't have been my pick (Warren :/), but he's looking good against Trump and as long as he gets the senate, that would still be a very good result.
The nomination system within the DNC and party is not only rigged but controlled through the Superdelegate system which is a backstop in case the voters cross the party elites. The DNC also dictates the media coverage and spin through daily or even hourly talking point memos. This is why if you channel surf all of the news channels the exact same verbiage is used by pundits.
Does anyone really know what Biden's policies are? So far it is only beat Trump and expand Obamacare, along with the obligatory open borders and provide illegal immigrants with free healthcare.
There we go again with your conspiracy shit. Tiresome.
And Bernie basically wrote the rules of the primary this time.