American Politics

[StLGooner]

Most Presidents here, Dem or Repub very rarely accomplish a fraction of what they say they will. So in that sense nothing has really changed to be fair to Trump. All the other stuff with the insults and comments is just embarrassing, and if anything just sets a bad example for our youth, and to the rest of the world.

[LMAO]

If Trump gets impeached, it will be worse here in the states. Cause that will mean Mike Pence takes over, and he literally believes that a man was made from dirt, a woman from a mans rib, and that noahs ark is real. He wants to teach creationism in public schools and make us all even more ignorant and stupid than we already get labeled for. We'll be a theocracy before you know it.

Meh, as much as I f***ing detest the closeted homo, Supply-Side Jesus evangelical, Pence would be a lame duck president, especially with a Democratic House (and maybe Senate, but that's a long shot until 2020). Or if he's caught up in all this too, then impeach and remove his ass too.

I hope the Democratic administration after this clusterfuck sends the wrath of god after the asshats in the Trump administration. I'm still pissed off that Obama didn't pursue the big players in the Bush administration (Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld especially), allowing them to get away with their crimes. Fvck all this we need to move forward and focus on the future bs, everyone who's broken the law needs to be held accountable, else the same crap will continue to happen.

[StLGooner]

If Trump gets impeached, it will be worse here in the states. Cause that will mean Mike Pence takes over, and he literally believes that a man was made from dirt, a woman from a mans rib, and that noahs ark is real. He wants to teach creationism in public schools and make us all even more ignorant and stupid than we already get labeled for. We'll be a theocracy before you know it.

Meh, as much as I f***ing detest the closeted homo, Supply-Side Jesus evangelical, Pence would be a lame duck president, especially with a Democratic House (and maybe Senate, but that's a long shot until 2020). Or if he's caught up in all this too, then impeach and remove his ass too.

I hope the Democratic administration after this clusterfuck sends the wrath of god after the asshats in the Trump administration. I'm still pissed off that Obama didn't pursue the big players in the Bush administration (Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld especially), allowing them to get away with their crimes. Fvck all this we need to move forward and focus on the future bs, everyone who's broken the law needs to be held accountable, else the same crap will continue to happen.

Maybe so, I know the Pres can only change so much on his own, so that is comforting at least.

[UFGN]

Liberal leaning Justices were stupid not to quit under Obama.

[UFGN]

I for one will be relieved the day Trump is out of office.

Its been an absolute circus so god know's what its like for Americans.

He can't even fall back on doing half if that, any of the things he said he would .......... unless you count trying to ban muslims from entering the country, what a legacy.

Equally p*ssed off with Brexit to be fair, we either need to do it or don't do it, this middle ground arguing is just BS and not good for the country.

The West is in a right mess politically.

You were told Brexit would be a clusterfuck.

You're negotiating with people who want to build a dome round the country, people who don't want to leave and guess what, the EU!!! Who obviously are going to play for their own advantage. It's impossible.

What did you think would happen?

You were warned. You called it project fear.

[EliteKiller]

If Trump gets impeached, it will be worse here in the states. Cause that will mean Mike Pence takes over, and he literally believes that a man was made from dirt, a woman from a mans rib, and that noahs ark is real. He wants to teach creationism in public schools and make us all even more ignorant and stupid than we already get labeled for. We'll be a theocracy before you know it.

Meh, as much as I f***ing detest the closeted homo, Supply-Side Jesus evangelical, Pence would be a lame duck president, especially with a Democratic House (and maybe Senate, but that's a long shot until 2020). Or if he's caught up in all this too, then impeach and remove his ass too.

I hope the Democratic administration after this clusterfuck sends the wrath of god after the asshats in the Trump administration. I'm still pissed off that Obama didn't pursue the big players in the Bush administration (Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld especially), allowing them to get away with their crimes. Fvck all this we need to move forward and focus on the future bs, everyone who's broken the law needs to be held accountable, else the same crap will continue to happen.

Surprised Trump hasn't pursued Obama more ... pot calling kettle I guess ....

BARACK OBAMA'S presidential campaign has been fined $375,000 by the Federal Election Commission for violating federal disclosure laws, Politico reports.

An FEC audit of Obama for America's 2008 records found the committee failed to disclose millions of dollars in contributions and dragged its feet in refunding millions more in excess contributions.

The resulting fine, one of the largest ever handed down by the FEC, is the result of a failure to disclose or improperly disclosing thousands of contributions to Obama for America during the then-senator's 2008 presidential run, documents show.

The obscene amounts of money spent to get elected (how is that not bribery?) in the states makes the whole 'political process' a joke .... you get what you pay for ... literally

[Zedie]

If Trump gets impeached, it will be worse here in the states. Cause that will mean Mike Pence takes over, and he literally believes that a man was made from dirt, a woman from a mans rib, and that noahs ark is real. He wants to teach creationism in public schools and make us all even more ignorant and stupid than we already get labeled for. We'll be a theocracy before you know it.

Meh, as much as I f***ing detest the closeted homo, Supply-Side Jesus evangelical, Pence would be a lame duck president, especially with a Democratic House (and maybe Senate, but that's a long shot until 2020). Or if he's caught up in all this too, then impeach and remove his ass too.

I hope the Democratic administration after this clusterfuck sends the wrath of god after the asshats in the Trump administration. I'm still pissed off that Obama didn't pursue the big players in the Bush administration (Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld especially), allowing them to get away with their crimes. Fvck all this we need to move forward and focus on the future bs, everyone who's broken the law needs to be held accountable, else the same crap will continue to happen.

Surprised Trump hasn't pursued Obama more ... pot calling kettle I guess ....

BARACK OBAMA'S presidential campaign has been fined $375,000 by the Federal Election Commission for violating federal disclosure laws, Politico reports.

An FEC audit of Obama for America's 2008 records found the committee failed to disclose millions of dollars in contributions and dragged its feet in refunding millions more in excess contributions.

The resulting fine, one of the largest ever handed down by the FEC, is the result of a failure to disclose or improperly disclosing thousands of contributions to Obama for America during the then-senator's 2008 presidential run, documents show.

The obscene amounts of money spent to get elected (how is that not bribery?) in the states makes the whole 'political process' a joke .... you get what you pay for ... literally

Could you provide a link for that quote pls?

[DiamondGooner]

I for one will be relieved the day Trump is out of office.

Its been an absolute circus so god know's what its like for Americans.

He can't even fall back on doing half if that, any of the things he said he would .......... unless you count trying to ban muslims from entering the country, what a legacy.

Equally p*ssed off with Brexit to be fair, we either need to do it or don't do it, this middle ground arguing is just BS and not good for the country.

The West is in a right mess politically.

You were told Brexit would be a clusterfuck.

You're negotiating with people who want to build a dome round the country, people who don't want to leave and guess what, the EU!!! Who obviously are going to play for their own advantage. It's impossible.

What did you think would happen?

You were warned. You called it project fear.

It was Project Fear, do you honestly believe both sides didn't exaggerate? that's not how it works.

Also at this rate how will we ever find out if it was project fear or not? May is trying to keep us in the EU.

I didn't vote because I didn't feel I had enough info or agenda for that matter to warrant making the decision, however ......... I stand by democracy, the people voted, its what a majority of Britain wanted, its for Parliament to deliver ......... they are not delivering.

Also the way you talk is like every country not in the EU is dead, most of the world isn't in the EU and they get along fine.

Only certain politicians or economic specialists actually have the knowledge of how we could do on our own, you don't know it, I don't know it, none of the public does.

.......... and at this rate we'll never know, your side held a vote, they lost, now they refuse to deliver and your blaming Brexiteers for the mess up, no the only people screwing this up are Remainer's who are tying the hands of those that want to get on and leave.

[Zedie]

Trump has gone on fox and friends and admitted that he knew about the stormy Daniel payments made via Cohen.

Taken out of campaign funds to directly pay a porn star to hush an affair he had just after (?) His wife gave birth to Baron.

In trying to distance himself from the collusion issues, he's admitted to a felony as he didn't mention these payments in any of his federal financial disclosures.

Probably worse for him, NYC have found all sorts of fraudulent shit going on with his charity and have filed state level charges (which he can't pardon lol) so he's done for anyway. His kids are tied up in that too.

He's racked up a shit load of enemies there as they've all seen first hand his fuckeries in business. It's part of the reason why he had to look for Russian money because he couldn't get credit anymore in NYC or America in general after having stiffed so many people and companies.

It's all starting to come together and when it gets too hot, the RNC will dump him. They've got their tax cuts for the 1%, so they probably don't care as much anymore.

[EliteKiller]

Could you provide a link for that quote pls?

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/01/07/obama-campaign-fined-big-for-hiding-donors-keeping-illegal-donations

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/01/04/obama-campaign-fine/1810285/

[UFGN]

Sorry I don't give a shit what the legal niceties are. If he paid the woman, he shagged her

So what are you waiting for Pence? Your boss is an adulterer. You're presence is helping to prop him up. You must resign!!

Otherwise God will come and get you

[Zedie]

Could you provide a link for that quote pls?

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/01/07/obama-campaign-fined-big-for-hiding-donors-keeping-illegal-donations

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/01/04/obama-campaign-fine/1810285/

The campaign eventually refunded the excess cash but did not do so within the 60-day window allotted for resolving such cases, FEC said.

From the top article. The main difference here is that the Obama administration was late paying back donations that went over the threshold and got fined for it, but did eventually pay the excess back.

Trump has been caught using campaign funds to pay off 2 porn stars with it and hasn't paid a penny back.

His lawyer has also admitted to fraud.

His campaign manager has also been found guilty of fraud including making up invoices and charging against them.

Do you see where the difference is? You should really read and try to understand the sources you're using to rebut, as they literally pale into insignificance compared to the 16 successful prosecutions that have come directly out of or related to the trump administration in 19 months of him being in office.

I mean seriously, that's nearly 1 a month ffs

[Zedie]

Sorry I don't give a shit what the legal niceties are. If he paid the woman, he shagged her

So what are you waiting for Pence? Your boss is an adulterer. You're presence is helping to prop him up. You must resign!!

Otherwise God will come and get you

Man of God turns blind eye to his boss using campaign funds to pay off porn stars and lying about it to Man of God's office, flag and country he's sworn to uphold with integrity and respect. Man of God stays silent on rampant adultery while bosses wife is nursing a new born.

The party of family values everyone.

f***ing hypocrites.

[UFGN]

Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.

Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.

If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.

But a man who commits adultery has no sense; whoever does so destroys himself.

Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”

Tldr.... Game time for Pence

[LMAO]

If Trump gets impeached, it will be worse here in the states. Cause that will mean Mike Pence takes over, and he literally believes that a man was made from dirt, a woman from a mans rib, and that noahs ark is real. He wants to teach creationism in public schools and make us all even more ignorant and stupid than we already get labeled for. We'll be a theocracy before you know it.

Meh, as much as I f***ing detest the closeted homo, Supply-Side Jesus evangelical, Pence would be a lame duck president, especially with a Democratic House (and maybe Senate, but that's a long shot until 2020). Or if he's caught up in all this too, then impeach and remove his ass too.

I hope the Democratic administration after this clusterfuck sends the wrath of god after the asshats in the Trump administration. I'm still pissed off that Obama didn't pursue the big players in the Bush administration (Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld especially), allowing them to get away with their crimes. Fvck all this we need to move forward and focus on the future bs, everyone who's broken the law needs to be held accountable, else the same crap will continue to happen.

Surprised Trump hasn't pursued Obama more ... pot calling kettle I guess ....

BARACK OBAMA'S presidential campaign has been fined $375,000 by the Federal Election Commission for violating federal disclosure laws, Politico reports.

An FEC audit of Obama for America's 2008 records found the committee failed to disclose millions of dollars in contributions and dragged its feet in refunding millions more in excess contributions.

The resulting fine, one of the largest ever handed down by the FEC, is the result of a failure to disclose or improperly disclosing thousands of contributions to Obama for America during the then-senator's 2008 presidential run, documents show.

The obscene amounts of money spent to get elected (how is that not bribery?) in the states makes the whole 'political process' a joke .... you get what you pay for ... literally

Your whataboutism was already accounted for...

everyone who's broken the law needs to be held accountable

Which Obama was.

And as Zedie has pointed out, the situations are hardly comparable.