American Politics

[Jedi]

What about the birther conspiracy? Was that racist? Because Trump started that...

Conspiracy theories about Obama's religion appeared at least as early as his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign - yup that was Trump.

Nothing like blaming Trump for everything - even when it's so obviously bullshit

Trump is a disgusting narcissist who should never have been elected - but to pretend he's the devil and the left are all angels - just dumb.

I don't care if he's not literally the first person. He popularized it and brought it to the mainstream like he did with voter fraud claims...

[Arsenal Tone]

First thing Biden should do is have MAGA listed as a terrorist organisation like Trump did with Antifa. Now that would be funny.

[LMAO]

First thing Biden should do is have MAGA listed as a terrorist organisation like Trump did with Antifa. Now that would be funny.

He can't for the same reason I said when Trump wanted to do it with antifa and why the KKK was never designated as such: we literally don't have a legal mechanism to designate domestic terrorism movements or groups/organizations, and it'd likely be shot down in the courts as a violation of the First Amendment.

[LMAO]

ARnoLd jUsT cOMpArEd tHeM tO NaZiS. HoW DisGuSTinG!

Well said from the Governator (and Biden a few days ago).

While smooth brains talk about diViSiVEnEsS, the rest of us are still shaking our heads at our version of the Beer Hall Putsch.

[Arsenal Tone]

First thing Biden should do is have MAGA listed as a terrorist organisation like Trump did with Antifa. Now that would be funny.

He can't for the same reason I said when Trump wanted to do it with antifa and why the KKK was never designated as such: we literally don't have a legal mechanism to designate domestic terrorism movements or groups/organizations, and it'd likely be shot down in the courts as a violation of the First Amendment.

Still be funny though

[EliteKiller]

What about the birther conspiracy? Was that racist? Because Trump started that...

Conspiracy theories about Obama's religion appeared at least as early as his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign - yup that was Trump.

Nothing like blaming Trump for everything - even when it's so obviously bullshit

Trump is a disgusting narcissist who should never have been elected - but to pretend he's the devil and the left are all angels - just dumb.

I don't care if he's not literally the first person. He popularized it and brought it to the mainstream like he did with voter fraud claims...

I don't care that's it's a blatant lie it fits my agenda so I'm going with it - do you reckon you might have a credibility problem?

[jayramfootball]

So what exactly are you referring to? and spare me the Neo-Nazis being upset about a black President, duh, but they are a handful of people, not half the country running riot etc.

What about the birther conspiracy? Was that racist? Because Trump started that...

Incorrect...and no, questioning the status of an individual who is President or about to become President is not racist. It is a matter dealt with in the Constitution. Being a minority does not exempt one from being questioned on Constitutional issues.

The reasons the questions were being asked about Obama is that the issue had been swirling around for years - not because he is black.. He eventually produced his birth certificate, which he should have done much earlier, but for some reason chose not to. In that sense he brought the issue upon himself - would have never been 'popularised' in the first place if he had proven his credentials and nipped the questions in the bud early.

[Va-Va-Voom]

So what exactly are you referring to? and spare me the Neo-Nazis being upset about a black President, duh, but they are a handful of people, not half the country running riot etc.

What about the birther conspiracy? Was that racist? Because Trump started that...

Incorrect...and no, questioning the status of an individual who is President or about to become President is not racist. It is a matter dealt with in the Constitution. Being a minority does not exempt one from being questioned on Constitutional issues.

The reasons the questions were being asked about Obama is that the issue had been swirling around for years - not because he is black.

How come Obama is the only President to have his country of birth questioned?

Why did questions swirl about it for years?

You can say it's not racist but it definitely seems coincidental that the only time a birth certificate has been an issue was when it concerned a half black President.

[Royal Gooner]

So what exactly are you referring to? and spare me the Neo-Nazis being upset about a black President, duh, but they are a handful of people, not half the country running riot etc.

What about the birther conspiracy? Was that racist? Because Trump started that...

Incorrect...and no, questioning the status of an individual who is President or about to become President is not racist. It is a matter dealt with in the Constitution. Being a minority does not exempt one from being questioned on Constitutional issues.

The reasons the questions were being asked about Obama is that the issue had been swirling around for years - not because he is black.

How come Obama is the only President to have his country of birth questioned?

Why did questions swirl about it for years?

You can say it's not racist but it definitely seems coincidental that the only time a birth certificate has been an issue was when it concerned a half black President.

Probably because his father wasn't American.

[jayramfootball]

So what exactly are you referring to? and spare me the Neo-Nazis being upset about a black President, duh, but they are a handful of people, not half the country running riot etc.

What about the birther conspiracy? Was that racist? Because Trump started that...

Incorrect...and no, questioning the status of an individual who is President or about to become President is not racist. It is a matter dealt with in the Constitution. Being a minority does not exempt one from being questioned on Constitutional issues.

The reasons the questions were being asked about Obama is that the issue had been swirling around for years - not because he is black.

How come Obama is the only President to have his country of birth questioned?

Why did questions swirl about it for years?

You can say it's not racist but it definitely seems coincidental that the only time a birth certificate has been an issue was when it concerned a half black President.

It's not the only time.
Firstly it was an issue at the very framing of the Constitution.
Since then Obama's was the 6th challenge to either Presidents or presidential candidates - as recently as John McCain when he actually ran against Obama! That required a Senate resolution to declare he was eligible after several lawsuits.
Prior to that, Mitt Romney's father's citizenship was questioned when he ran in 1968.
Before and after Chester Alan Arthur became president in 1881, his campaign rivals spread rumours that he was born in Canada and wasn't eligible to be President - including planting stories in the NYT.

Stop leaping to the racism card.
Perhaps think about why you just assumed that there had never been any questions about others...

[Va-Va-Voom]

McCain was actually born in the Panama canal zone. I can see why someone might opportunistically challenge that, it's a long shot but it's actually based on something no matter how tentative.

[Royal Gooner]

McCain was actually born in the Panama canal zone. I can see why someone might opportunistically challenge that, it's a long shot but it's actually based on something no matter how tentative.

Plus Trump was challenging Cruz for being born in Canada during the 2016 primaries.

[Jedi]

So what exactly are you referring to? and spare me the Neo-Nazis being upset about a black President, duh, but they are a handful of people, not half the country running riot etc.

What about the birther conspiracy? Was that racist? Because Trump started that...

Incorrect...and no, questioning the status of an individual who is President or about to become President is not racist. It is a matter dealt with in the Constitution. Being a minority does not exempt one from being questioned on Constitutional issues.

The reasons the questions were being asked about Obama is that the issue had been swirling around for years - not because he is black.

How come Obama is the only President to have his country of birth questioned?

Why did questions swirl about it for years?

You can say it's not racist but it definitely seems coincidental that the only time a birth certificate has been an issue was when it concerned a half black President.

It's not the only time.
Firstly it was an issue at the very framing of the Constitution.
Since then Obama's was the 6th challenge to either Presidents or presidential candidates - as recently as John McCain when he actually ran against Obama! That required a Senate resolution to declare he was eligible after several lawsuits.
Prior to that, Mitt Romney's father's citizenship was questioned when he ran in 1968.
Before and after Chester Alan Arthur became president in 1881, his campaign rivals spread rumours that he was born in Canada and wasn't eligible to be President - including planting stories in the NYT.

Stop leaping to the racism card.
Perhaps think about why you just assumed that there had never been any questions about others...

If only there was additional context to this like Republican chants calling him a Muslim and Trump emphasizing HUSSEIN whenever he said his full name.

1:40 and onwards...

[jayramfootball]

So what exactly are you referring to? and spare me the Neo-Nazis being upset about a black President, duh, but they are a handful of people, not half the country running riot etc.

What about the birther conspiracy? Was that racist? Because Trump started that...

Incorrect...and no, questioning the status of an individual who is President or about to become President is not racist. It is a matter dealt with in the Constitution. Being a minority does not exempt one from being questioned on Constitutional issues.

The reasons the questions were being asked about Obama is that the issue had been swirling around for years - not because he is black.

How come Obama is the only President to have his country of birth questioned?

Why did questions swirl about it for years?

You can say it's not racist but it definitely seems coincidental that the only time a birth certificate has been an issue was when it concerned a half black President.

It's not the only time.
Firstly it was an issue at the very framing of the Constitution.
Since then Obama's was the 6th challenge to either Presidents or presidential candidates - as recently as John McCain when he actually ran against Obama! That required a Senate resolution to declare he was eligible after several lawsuits.
Prior to that, Mitt Romney's father's citizenship was questioned when he ran in 1968.
Before and after Chester Alan Arthur became president in 1881, his campaign rivals spread rumours that he was born in Canada and wasn't eligible to be President - including planting stories in the NYT.

Stop leaping to the racism card.
Perhaps think about why you just assumed that there had never been any questions about others...

If only there was additional context to this like Republican chants calling him a Muslim and Trump emphasizing HUSSEIN whenever he said his full name.

1:40 and onwards...

Muslim isn't a race, sunshine.
I guess eventually everything you dislike will be racist in some way.
You've already demonstrated you know sod all about it, so just sit down.

[jayramfootball]

McCain was actually born in the Panama canal zone. I can see why someone might opportunistically challenge that, it's a long shot but it's actually based on something no matter how tentative.

Plus Trump was challenging Cruz for being born in Canada during the 2016 primaries.

Like I said - it's been used as a political weapon many times through history - including against sitting Presidents.